Commentator.. nice!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Whoa now. Easy there tiger.

How many horses this decade have three Beyers of 119+? Not many others besides Ghostzapper and Commentator.

[ateamstupid]

Haven't we been here before? What exactly did Commentator do yesterday that he hasn't already done? He got away with a soft quarter and aired in very fast time in a race essentially written for him. That hasn't happened before. The horse is seven years old and still has never dueled through fast splits with a top-flight horse and come out on top. He remains a very talented quitter to me until he proves otherwise.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Haven't we been here before? What exactly did Commentator do yesterday that he hasn't already done? He got away with a soft quarter and aired in very fast time in a race essentially written for him. That hasn't happened before. The horse is seven years old and still has never dueled through fast splits with a top-flight horse and come out on top. He remains a very talented quitter to me until he proves otherwise.

Yep.
But at 7 damn good.

From my earlier post:

Same old same old
with this horse.
Give em an easy run
in the first part of a race,
uncontested early, he looks
like a monster.

He can win sprints.
If they go 22.5, 46 and he
leads these fractions.
Good luck with that.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

A 10 for 16 horse can't be called a quitter.

Um, why not? He throws in the towel every time he doesn't get things his way. That's a quitter, I don't care what his record is.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Um, why not? He throws in the towel every time he doesn't get things his way. That's a quitter, I don't care what his record is.

In the Whitney he was certainly loose on the lead down the backstretch, but Saint Liam did push him a bit early and Commentator ran the opening half in :46 2/5. That doesn't strike me as ideal for a 9f race.
He certainly had a good trip that day, but so did the the HOY that couldn't get by him in the stretch.

Originally Posted by miraja2

In the Whitney he was certainly loose on the lead down the backstretch, but Saint Liam did push him a bit early and Commentator ran the opening half in :46 2/5. That doesn't strike me as ideal for a 9f race.
He certainly had a good trip that day, but so did the the HOY that couldn't get by him in the stretch.

Look at the Woodward.
Tried to rate em,
St. Liam passed him
without asking. Other horses
ahead early and he is toast.



He is a very good
1-dimensional horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You left out the part about Team Dutrow hounding Commentator for the first 5 furlongs of that race. There were not 1 but 2 rabbits entered to aid St. Liam. Now, it probably wouldn't have mattered, I don't think anyone was beating St. Liam that day, but it's not like Commentator just threw in the towel for no reason. I'd love to see what he could do if he could stay healthy this year, because there isn't much talent in the older horse division right now.

When you quote his nonsense it completely defeats the purpose of my having him on ignore.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You left out the part about Team Dutrow hounding Commentator for the first 5 furlongs of that race. There were not 1 but 2 rabbits entered to aid St. Liam. Now, it probably wouldn't have mattered, I don't think anyone was beating St. Liam that day, but it's not like Commentator just threw in the towel for no reason. I'd love to see what he could do if he could stay healthy this year, because there isn't much talent in the older horse division right now.

HOunding. Are you kidding. That was the worst job of hounding I have ever seen.
One rabbit was totally useless. The lesson learned was you cant even get close
to rating the horse. Stevens had hm will in hand and...Horse could not take it.
Damn fast 1-dimensional horse.
The horse is damn good at what he does.

[philcski]

Speaking of Ghostzapper, somehow he had no information on pedigreequery.com?? Pretty odd for the best horse of the last 25 years. [I updated it.]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Just do me a favor and go watch the race again. Then watch the head on. If that isn't hounding I don't know what is. It was like a relay race against him. Not many horses can deal with 2 rabbits, especially if you have to deal with a talent like St. Liam after disposing of the 2 rabbits.

Well Dutrows use of the rabbit
accomplished the goal of getting
Sir Shaq to place.

One rabbit was non functional
St. Liam was at a walk behind them, how far off from the
Commentator? Relay race with one horse never getting the baton.
The goal the Rabbit accomplished was trying to get
Stevens to rate the horse.

Look the result is the same.
He has to tear off and get a lead
or he is beaten. This is exactly
the same for the past 3 years at least.
What problem do youhave with this?

But he is a very good one turn 8f 7 year old.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

How many horses this decade have three Beyers of 119+? Not many others besides Ghostzapper and Commentator.

Are you suggesting that Commentator could beat Ghostzapper or come close to beating him in a race since they both have beyers of 119+? We all know that beyers are purely subjective.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

How many horses this decade have three Beyers of 119+? Not many others besides Ghostzapper and Commentator.

Two of Commentators three big figures came with ridiculiously easy trips - and his third big figure, was one that many felt was a questionable number on the high side.

I believe Left Bank ran four of 118 or greater. though two of the four were 118's.

Congaree had a pair of 120's and a 118

Swept Overboard had a pair of 122's.

Kona Gold had a 123, 119, 118, 117

A lot of close but not quite's.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Two of Commentators three big figures came with ridiculiously easy trips - and his third big figure, was one that many felt was a questionable number on the high side.

I believe Left Bank ran four of 118 or greater. though two of the four were 118's.

Congaree had a pair of 120's and a 118

Swept Overboard had a pair of 122's.

Kona Gold had a 123, 119, 118, 117

A lot of close but not quite's.

Which is why I wouldn't personally put him in my top ten for the decade but I don't think anyone should have a major problem with someone putting the horse in their top ten for the decade. Especially considering that only he and Ghostzapper have gone 119+ three times no matter the circumstances.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Which is why I wouldn't personally put him in my top ten for the decade but I don't think anyone should have a major problem with someone putting the horse in their top ten for the decade. Especially considering that only he and Ghostzapper have gone 119+ three times no matter the circumstances.

When you quote his nonsense it completely defeats the purpose of my having him on ignore.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When you quote his nonsense it completely defeats the purpose of my having him on ignore.

LOL

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When you quote his nonsense it completely defeats the purpose of my having him on ignore.

Sometimes I feel like this whole board would be a lot more entertaining if I blocked everyone but me.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I laughed.

Me too.