Two could be heavy favorites on Saturday - play against

Originally Posted by Scav

if you have a speed horse that usually only last 9 furlongs, YEAH

Is that what Point Given was.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Is that what Point Given was.

He won that race from the lead

Originally Posted by Scav

He won that race from the lead

But he wasn't just a 9F horse. He could run as far as needed. So could a couple other winners.

The Haskell is more prestigious than the Jim Dandy, but not the Travers. The best argument is that you want a race over the Saratoga track, but the extra week argument doesn't cut it for me.

[Scav]

How come Gulfstream runs a major stakes weekend every 4 weeks?

because trainers want 4 weeks inbetween starts

[Scav]

Monmouth, ESPECIALLY on Haskell day is the most bias track I have ever watched, bar none. The track on Haskell Day is worse then the day Monarchos won the Kentucky Derby (for those who don't remember, that track was the fastest I have ever seen a racetrack)

[zippyneedsawin]

Monmouth IS usually a speed biased track..

Originally Posted by Scav

Monmouth, ESPECIALLY on Haskell day is the most bias track I have ever watched, bar none. The track on Haskell Day is worse then the day Monarchos won the Kentucky Derby (for those who don't remember, that track was the fastest I have ever seen a racetrack)

Never been to Keeneland I guess. Monmouth is biased, that is probably why Sinister Minister is going, but people say the same thing about Pimlico and Bernardini didn't seem to mind.

[SentToStud]

Scav,
Probably around mid-afternoon on. Like a firster tomorrow. Calder Race 2 Espartaco.

Originally Posted by Scav

How come Gulfstream runs a major stakes weekend every 4 weeks?

because trainers want 4 weeks inbetween starts

So I guess Bluegrass Cat, Strong Contender, and whoever else shows up for the Haskell, and Bright One and the WV Derby horses, should just forget about the Travers.

With your reasoning the Travers will be the top 3 horses from the Jim Dandy.

Very exciting Travers. Bernardini, Ministers Bid, and Sunriver. So we get 5 wagering interests tomorrow in the Jim Dandy and 3 for the Travers.

Excellent.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by boldruler

So I guess Bluegrass Cat, Strong Contender, and whoever else shows up for the Haskell, and Bright One and the WV Derby horses, should just forget about the Travers.

With your reasoning the Travers will be the top 3 horses from the Jim Dandy.

Very exciting Travers. Bernardini, Ministers Bid, and Sunriver. So we get 5 wagering interests tomorrow in the Jim Dandy and 3 for the Travers.

Excellent.

No, I am not saying that....BUT what I am saying is that IF YOU WANT TO WIN the Travers which is what Albertini has said he wants to do and is TARGETED FOR, historically, you do not run in the Haskell. Regardless how Bern runs in the Dandy, he is my stone cold lock of the year to win the Travers.

Originally Posted by Scav

No, I am not saying that....BUT what I am saying is that IF YOU WANT TO WIN the Travers which is what Albertini has said he wants to do and is TARGETED FOR, historically, you do not run in the Haskell. Regardless how Bern runs in the Dandy, he is my stone cold lock of the year to win the Travers.

Bright One will make him earn it.