Indian Blessing - Sets record

blackthroatedwind · #1 01-14-2008, 01:44 AM

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

King Glorious · #2 01-14-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

The confusion is probably my fault. I think it was on a Derby contender thread instead of a top 3yo thread. Usually, those lists are one and the same though at this time of year.

In all honesty, I'd still have her listed pretty high if it was a Derby list. Maybe not #3 but probably still in my top five although I think it's very unlikely that Baffert's thinking that route with her at this time. Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one.

ArlJim78 · #3 01-14-2008, 01:58 AM

I like Golden Doc A for the Belmont.

cowgirlintexas · #4 01-14-2008, 08:05 AM

"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.

Cannon Shell · #5 01-14-2008, 08:31 AM

Why are races run on poly considered "new" stakes records ? Shouldnt it be a stakes record for poly and be considered seperate from the existing track record? Not that it really matters ...

VOL JACK · #6 01-14-2008, 01:15 PM

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Why are races run on poly considered "new" stakes records ? Shouldnt it be a stakes record for poly and be considered seperate from the existing track record? Not that it really matters ...

You are using way too much logic, for this sport.

King Glorious · #7 01-14-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.

That's the way the game works. The strong survive, the rest don't.

Bobby Fischer · #8 01-14-2008, 10:27 AM

Wow that was fast.
At least she looked solid doing it.

blackthroatedwind · #9 01-14-2008, 10:43 AM

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That's the way the game works. The strong survive, the rest don't.

Thank God you weren't a golfing buddy of Tim Smith.

And, frankly, thank God racing is a lot more subtle than that.

tiggerv · #10 01-14-2008, 11:22 AM

No record is legit on that track right now. Personally, I was underwhelmed by her performance. Gomez had to all but drag her across the wire that final furlong.

This is apples and oranges of course but the filly from that card that we should be talking about is Zenyatta. There is a potential monster.

blackthroatedwind · #11 01-14-2008, 11:26 AM

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This is apples and oranges of course but the filly from that card that we should be talking about is Zenyatta. There is a potential monster.

Kidding aside, for only a minute ( I promise ), why is Zenyatta more worthy of conversation than Indian Blessing? I mean, don't get me wrong, Zenyatta was a thing of beauty yesterday, but Indian Blessing is an undefeated winner of the BC Juvenile Fillies who, unlike Zenyatta, has also taken her game on the road ( winning on four different racetracks ) and, more importantly, has won on two different surfaces.

Zenyatta is exciting....but so is Indian Blessing....and the latter has accomplished far more.

blackthroatedwind · #12 01-14-2008, 11:22 AM

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So now Baffert is a trainer that breaks them down too?

Seems like he has done a pretty good job with her so far. He got a filly who probably wants no part of anything over 7-8 furlongs, to win 2 grade 1's and a championship, including a 2 turn win. Not too shabby.

You completely missed the, intended I'm sure, irony.....

This person is happy that, according to her, she is trained by someone willing to take a shot in the KY Derby with Indian Blessing while castigating Mr. Baffert for supposedly breaking down horses.

#13 01-14-2008, 11:28 AM

I think she's got a legitimate shot to enter The Hambletonian and win it.

Danzig · #14 01-14-2008, 01:12 PM

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I still don't get it.

king is the one who made the point that baffert will take a shot with her, cowgirl was quoting his statement, while showing she disagreed.

cowgirlintexas · #15 01-14-2008, 06:08 PM

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king is the one who made the point that baffert will take a shot with her, cowgirl was quoting his statement, while showing she disagreed.

Thank you.

Danzig · #16 01-14-2008, 06:41 PM

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I was trying to be funny. I got it. Cowgirl doesn't like Baffert either for some reason. Apparently he breaks a lot of horses down. Not really sure who or even when this happened.

oh, sorry.

as for the rep certain trainers get, i'm not sure how much is based on fact, and how much on perception-or how much is due to dislike of the trainer.

RolloTomasi · #17 01-14-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was trying to be funny. I got it. Cowgirl doesn't like Baffert either for some reason. Apparently he breaks a lot of horses down. Not really sure who or even when this happened.

Baffert does break down a large number of horses. You never hear too much about them cuz for the most part they happen during training hours (What A Song, Cavonnier, and Inexcessivelygood are the only "high profile" ones I can think of).

In 2002, Baffert finished 1-2-3-4-6 in the Del Mar Futurity with Icecoldbeeratreds, Kafwain, Chief Planner, Friendly Mike, and Bull Market. By May 15 the following year, the winner was dead, the 2nd thru 4th were laid up/retired with suspensory injuries, and Bull Market had knee surgery from which he never truly recovered. Not to mention his best juvenile that year, Vindication, was toast (another suspensory) by the following March.

miraja2 · #18 01-14-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

You are probably confused because you are remembering what he actually did write in the thread, instead of what he is now strangely claiming he wrote/meant.