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Old 07-28-2006, 10:20 AM
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Why dont you guys quit your arguing. This site is for opinions and thoughts, right wrong or inderfernet. If you dont agree with any opinions thoughts or anything else move on or get over it .You dont have to take any thoughts or opinions seriously if you choose not to. . This is a great site and I have seen very little of this. Lets try to keep it this way.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:34 AM
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Why dont you guys quit your arguing. This site is for opinions and thoughts, right wrong or inderfernet. If you dont agree with any opinions thoughts or anything else move on or get over it .You dont have to take any thoughts or opinions seriously if you choose not to. . This is a great site and I have seen very little of this. Lets try to keep it this way.
Take your skirt off. People are allowed to argue. This is all the buildup to when somebody will have to eat their words. Showing Up will smoke English Channel and CQ will run a distant 3rd in the Hopeful.

CQ is very impressive, I just felt Oracle went a little overboard. So far he has been right and I have been wrong on that one.

However, Showing Up smoked their IEAH boy Kip Deville, and Oracle shot off his mouth about how a different jockey would have made the difference. That different jockey did him a whole lot of good in the last one. I think he is still running. I still haven't heard Oracle admit SU is a better horse.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:14 PM
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I thought the first two were impressive today and will go on to better things in the future.

Scat Daddy was very green and moves up to 7F in his next race.
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:42 AM
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I loved his burst once he got clear...remember, he is a baby and was clearly running greenly on the inside and with the dirt hitting him....his head was straight up in the air and he was moving very awkwardly before Johnny V got him out and let him mark that other horse...once he did it was over...

His ability and upside is crazy....I'm not crazy by the way he moves his left front anfd I hope is doesn't cause soundness issues down the road because he is a big horse, but I really firmly believe that he is the most talented juvenile in the country right now....and yes, that means that he is better than Circular Quay...As a matter of fact, I was in Ocala earlier this week and I heard from many sources around there that the barn believes he is by far their best 2YO, but then again, I have heaqrd and thought that for months now ever since he outworked Minefield twice at CD in the weeks leading up to the Derby....this horse is a runner and his narrow win will only help his price in the Hopeful because he WILL win that race too...

Additionally, if he can prove to negotiate 1 1/16 miles (which, I admit, is a big question mark to me despite his long stride), then he is your BC Juvy winner IMO......we'll see...a lot of racing to be done before that race but I know he is the goods....anybody that thinks his narrow win over a maiden was a poor effort doesn't understand how to watch a race IMO.....he was running green and in tight, cumbersome spots for half of a mile before getting clear.....remember, these are babies and they have much to learn on the experience front.....
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:57 AM
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That different jockey did him a whole lot of good in the last one. I think he is still running. I still haven't heard Oracle admit SU is a better horse.
Come on. I hate to get involved and this argument has been beaten to death but the two races are two different scenarios. Kip Deville had ONE chance to steal a race like that and Quincy Hamilton flat out blew it. Three weeks later after the race of his life was a definite bet against. A ten year old could have seen that bounce coming. And of course Showing Up is the better horse, but in IEAH's defense they atleast ran him iinstead of keeping him in his stall like Lael did. As for Scat Daddy I dont think he was overly impressive in here but he's only a two year old! For the most part they are all over the place but he did dig in to get the win. I personally cant get into juvenile racing this early so I'm not knowledgable on the topic enough to really get into this debate. Carry on...
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Old 07-29-2006, 08:40 AM
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Come on. I hate to get involved and this argument has been beaten to death but the two races are two different scenarios. Kip Deville had ONE chance to steal a race like that and Quincy Hamilton flat out blew it. Three weeks later after the race of his life was a definite bet against. A ten year old could have seen that bounce coming. And of course Showing Up is the better horse, but in IEAH's defense they atleast ran him iinstead of keeping him in his stall like Lael did. As for Scat Daddy I dont think he was overly impressive in here but he's only a two year old! For the most part they are all over the place but he did dig in to get the win. I personally cant get into juvenile racing this early so I'm not knowledgable on the topic enough to really get into this debate. Carry on...
First, Kip Deville is just not a horse that wants to be rated. He is Sinister Minister type freak, that just needs to run. If you put him in a BC Mile he would have a shot, as long as they don't rate him.

Second, Lael didn't keep him in his stall. He kept himself in the stall with a minor problem he had, although it wasn't a physical injury. He just had a reaction to a panalog injection.
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