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Old 01-12-2008, 12:42 PM
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Silver Charm was an outstanding racehorse, one of my all time favorites and definitely worthy of his place in the Hall of Fame, but I also don't consider him "great". He had some spectacular races in his career, but too many clunkers to forget. A true great only gets a few mulligans.
This is interesting. I have a hard time putting anyone into any hall of fame if I don't think they were great.
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:26 PM
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This is interesting. I have a hard time putting anyone into any hall of fame if I don't think they were great.
Was Cougar II great? No, but he's in the Hall. I can give plenty more examples as such.
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Old 01-12-2008, 04:04 PM
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Was Cougar II great? No, but he's in the Hall. I can give plenty more examples as such.
I didn't mean examples of who you specifically didn't think were great but are in the hall. From your post, I took it to mean that you didn't think Silver Charm was great but if you had a vote, you would have voted for him because he was deserving.

There are plenty in there that I don't think were great horses and therefore, I wouldn't have voted for them because I don't think they were deserving. A lot of horses that I think were great horses (Java Gold, KG, Smarty, Lammtarra, GZ, and Candy Ride, for example), if I had a vote, they would not be in. Would you have voted Silver Charm in?
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:38 PM
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I didn't mean examples of who you specifically didn't think were great but are in the hall. From your post, I took it to mean that you didn't think Silver Charm was great but if you had a vote, you would have voted for him because he was deserving.

There are plenty in there that I don't think were great horses and therefore, I wouldn't have voted for them because I don't think they were deserving. A lot of horses that I think were great horses (Java Gold, KG, Smarty, Lammtarra, GZ, and Candy Ride, for example), if I had a vote, they would not be in. Would you have voted Silver Charm in?
You intepreted me correctly, and my answer is without a doubt.

He won 2 legs of the TC, 11 graded stakes, and danced all the dances, and ended up I believe the 2nd highest earning thoroughbred of all time (at the time). He was one of my all time favorites, and the '98 BC was one of my all time favorite races. He was just somewhat inconsistent... the truly great ones don't run inexplicable races like he did on occasion. I believe the terms I would use are "outstanding" and a "horse I would love to own".
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Was Cougar II great? No, but he's in the Hall. I can give plenty more examples as such.
If he raced against last years handicap division they would be writing songs about his greatness...
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:13 PM
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If he raced against last years handicap division they would be writing songs about his greatness...
If I ran against last year's handicap division they'd be writing songs about me.



You going to be around the sale tomorrow?
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If I ran against last year's handicap division they'd be writing songs about me.



You going to be around the sale tomorrow?
You have done enough...


Yes, but pretty early 10am to 12
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You have done enough...


Yes, but pretty early 10am to 12
We will see you there then...
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