NH Primary

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.

John Edwards in the shi**er

[herkhorse]

http://www.averagjoe.com/countdown.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Ah, Hillary's "tears."

Another phony act by a genuine phony.

It never ends.

yeah, well the whole bite the lower lip thing is bills schtick...she had to come up with something.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.

or maybe it's all the news about a campaign team shake up...

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton

We get what we deserve.

[Danzig]

since i think foreign policy is our biggest issue, which candidate has the most experience in that regard? or offers the best hope for a less than rocky four/eight years after bush?

Originally Posted by Danzig

since i think foreign policy is our biggest issue, which candidate has the most experience in that regard? or offers the best hope for a less than rocky four/eight years after bush?

McCain.

[Danzig]

that's what i figured. i wanted him eight years ago....but nooo, bush had to get the nomination.
i do like some of gulianias federalist leanings. don't care for him personally, not that that matters.
huckabee makes me want to throw up. i can't stand him. god forbid i have to have him as president after having suffered with him as governor.
i just think all the top runners for the dem nod have a lack of experience, except maybe bill richardson, and he is lagging badly.

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's what i figured. i wanted him eight years ago....but nooo, bush had to get the nomination.
i do like some of gulianias federalist leanings. don't care for him personally, not that that matters.
huckabee makes me want to throw up. i can't stand him. god forbid i have to have him as president after having suffered with him as governor.
i just think all the top runners for the dem nod have a lack of experience, except maybe bill richardson, and he is lagging badly.

Plus Richardson has the whole turkey neck thing going for him. You figure if he was the least bit serious about running for prez he would've had that sucked out.

[ArlJim78]

what happened to concession speechs? Obama is giving a speech that rivals any convention acceptance speech.

its all over but the counting, McCain will be the next pres.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what happened to concession speechs? Obama is giving a speech that rivals any convention acceptance speech.

its all over but the counting, McCain will be the next pres.

he is very flowery.

So I guess no one agrees with me that the turkey neck hurts Richardson? Don't give your fellow Americans that much credit. It matters to them.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what happened to concession speechs? Obama is giving a speech that rivals any convention acceptance speech.

its all over but the counting, McCain will be the next pres.

A daring forecast.

I think its totally up for grabs
and all of this is happening way
too early anyway. Some of these people
are supposed to be running the
country, not their mouths.

Ron Paul has got his tin foil hat on.
So thats about 9% of New Hampshire
Republicans who are retarded. Less than the Houston,
Texas area, but still significant.

And if McCain does win, will somebody
please take the butter knife away from
the prospective First Lady's makeup supply.
She is taping and floating
her face. This is a woman who shops at
Home Depot for her beauty items.
Takin odds her milk glands are fake also.

OK so she may HAVE been hot. But dammit
we all get old. So just be old, ugly, and aware of it.
Why is this so hard to do? I find it stunningly
easy.

And I thank you.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

A daring forecast.

I think its totally up for grabs
and all of this is happening way
too early anyway. Some of these people
are supposed to be running the
country, not their mouths.

Ron Paul has got his tin foil hat on.
So thats about 9% of New Hampshire
Republicans who are retarded. Less than the Houston,
Texas area, but still significant.

And if McCain does win, will somebody
please take the butter knife away from
the prospective First Lady's makeup supply.
She is taping and floating
her face. This is a woman who shops at
Home Depot for her beauty items.
Takin odds her milk glands are fake also.

OK so she may HAVE been hot. But dammit
we all get old. So just be old, ugly, and aware of it.Why is this so hard to do? I find it stunningly
easy.

And I thank you.

funny you mention that.. tony had the tv on, and the evening news with katie couric came on. what did she do to herself???? i hadn't seen her in a while, and she looks awful.
she should sue the surgeon for malpractice.

so i grabbed the remote, and turned off the tv.

what am i paying $91 a month for?!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what happened to concession speechs? Obama is giving a speech that rivals any convention acceptance speech.

He had a huge lead in the polls with 24 hours to go - and he supposedly goes out for dinner with his family once the polls close.

He'd have had to come up with a concession speech right off the top of his head.

He didn't even seem to have enough time to change his music that played at the end of his speech.

It was probably the first time ever that a losing candidate had that Stevie Wonder song 'Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours' playing after his speech.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He had a huge lead in the polls with 24 hours to go - and he supposedly goes out for dinner with his family once the polls close.

He'd have had to come up with a concession speech right off the top of his head.

He didn't even seem to have enough time to change his music that played at the end of his speech.

It was probably the first time ever that a losing candidate had that Stevie Wonder song 'Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours' playing after his speech.

Obama is going to try and fine tune his message...he has hired Kelly Tilghman
as a consultant

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He had a huge lead in the polls with 24 hours to go - and he supposedly goes out for dinner with his family once the polls close.

He'd have had to come up with a concession speech right off the top of his head.

He didn't even seem to have enough time to change his music that played at the end of his speech.

It was probably the first time ever that a losing candidate had that Stevie Wonder song 'Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours' playing after his speech.

"He had a huge lead in the polls with 24 hours to go - and he supposedly goes out for dinner with his family once the polls close."

the bradley effect.

los angeles mayor tom bradley had a significant lead in polls leading up to the 1982 california election for governor. he was declared the winner based on exit polling by all the major networks.

george deukmajian served 2 terms.

there weren't issues with methodology. every poll, including those paid for by the republican candidate, showed similar trends.

the simple view is that people don't want to express an antipathy to a candidate based on race when asked directly one on one. in the privacy of a voting booth it's a different story.

it's probably more complex than that. a lot of polling misses poorer, less educated voters. and thus exaggerates the influence of the college educated middle class.

regardless, i'd be careful before annoiting obama the shoe in nominee. new hampshire may not be the only surprise.

i say that as someone who'll vote for him. at least so far as any of you know.

[Danzig]

well, yeah, it is....but foreign policy goes hand in hand with it.

really tho, domestic issues seem to be handled more by congress, but the president has always been acknowledged as the pace setter on our foreign affairs. and that goes hand in hand with a HUGE, global economy. i think the economy pretty much is too huge for the pres to fix or screw up, altho they all always tend to grab the praise when it goes well!

take the housing market. when the banks were giving loans to all who asked, they had to know it would correct itself. it was a balloon waiting to burst. then when it goes tits up, the banks want the govt to 'do something'. you didn't want the govt to do something when you were careless, but now when you have to pay the piper, it's a different story....

and i digress...

i just think people get caught up too much in details, in the mundane, when it comes to electing a president. that's where your local and state reps come into play, the every day business of governing your community and the state.
the presidency is different. it's not like people call the ceo when their paycheck has a mistake...