Clemens: BigFATLIar

[horseofcourse]

...sex...lies....and AUDIO TAPE!!

[King Glorious]

21 times in the phone conversations, the trainers asked Roger "what do you want me to do?" Roger told him he's having a press conference Monday. The trainer asked if Roger wanted him to fly out. Maybe it's me but I would have liked to hear just once, instead of Roger saying "I'm just going to tell the truth", to say "I want you to come out and be right there next to me and admit that you lied and I didn't do it." Just once. I was listening to the tape and waiting to hear Roger ask "WHY DID YOU LIE ON ME???" The guy was pleading with Roger to tell him what he wanted him to do and all Roger would say is "I just need SOMEBODY to tell the truth Mac." That's bullshit. Then to top it off, in Roger's news conference later, Clemens says that he'd be afraid for the trainers' safety if he came out to the conference because his family is very upset and he's very upset. So what? Is he saying that some harm would come to the guy while he was there to clear Clemens' name? That doesn't make sense. Not much of this makes any sense.

What do you want me to do?
Get your ass here and admit that you lied.

Sounds simple enough to say to me.

[alysheba4]

remember when he fired a sawed off bat at piazza??? said he thought it was the ball.........

[Nascar1966]

Clemens now is the same as Barry Bonds. They are pieces of crap and liars along with being a disgrace to baseball. Its a shame that people like McGuire get snubbed by the Hall of Fame. He admitted to using something that when he used it was legal. As far as I am concerned Baseball can go to HELL!!!!!

[The Bid]

He cheated, Bonds cheated, they all cheated. You dont have the best years of your life in your 40s unless youre being helped along. I believe that Roger started using steroids when he joined the Yankees, he obviously was lay up to the Hall of Fame before he signed on with them. Its the competitive nature and love of the game that makes any of these great athletes cheat. I do think Bonds and Clemens, and anyone else who used steroids should be allowed in the HOF with one condition, they shouldnt be allowed to hold down all time records. They should be in on their merit, but all time stats should be void because its impossible to say when the cheating started.

For the record I also think Pete Rose belongs in the HOF

Originally Posted by The Bid

He cheated, Bonds cheated, they all cheated. You dont have the best years of your life in your 40s unless youre being helped along. I believe that Roger started using steroids when he joined the Yankees, he obviously was lay up to the Hall of Fame before he signed on with them. Its the competitive nature and love of the game that makes any of these great athletes cheat. I do think Bonds and Clemens, and anyone else who used steroids should be allowed in the HOF with one condition, they shouldnt be allowed to hold down all time records. They should be in on their merit, but all time stats should be void because its impossible to say when the cheating started.

For the record I also think Pete Rose belongs in the HOF

Bonds was great as a young man without them, so was Clemens, and Rose was a fantastic player. The all are HOF. I just cant respect any of them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Bonds was great as a young man without them, so was Clemens, and Rose was a fantastic player. The all are HOF. I just cant respect any of them.

I'm sure they will be very upset to find this out