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Old 01-05-2008, 11:32 AM
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Its not just the wax, they arent telling the story, its the base. They knew before they started and never gave it a second thought.
Bid, from day one all they've talked about is not the wax, but the too-fine sand (different from previous, working installations) clogging the base drainage, and apparently there isn't any problem with drainage through the base itself.

Where do you get the different story from?
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:35 AM
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Its not the wax, the sand, or anything else. Its the base, and they laid the base wrong. I get that from the engineers who told them the track would never drain properly if installed this way. Directly from the source.

Horses are breaking down at alarming rates in Nor Cal, So Cal cant run when it rains, Woodbines track is a disaster, Keeneland is coming off the worst meet breakdown wise in the last 7 years. Why is it even still up for discussion whether these tracks are as advertised
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:51 AM
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Horses are breaking down at alarming rates in Nor Cal, So Cal cant run when it rains, Woodbines track is a disaster, Keeneland is coming off the worst meet breakdown wise in the last 7 years.
Cite your stats and sources, please?

I'm sure the press directly from the tracks is always going to have a positive slant, but nobody has written anything like what you say, above. And I know there are plenty of racing journalists out there that obviously don't care for synthetic surfaces, and would be happy to publish such info as the above. I haven't seen it anywhere.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:10 PM
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Cite your stats and sources, please?

I'm sure the press directly from the tracks is always going to have a positive slant, but nobody has written anything like what you say, above. And I know there are plenty of racing journalists out there that obviously don't care for synthetic surfaces, and would be happy to publish such info as the above. I haven't seen it anywhere.

Check the charts from Golden Gates from 2 days ago. Delayed the start of races for 30 minutes then they had 5 horses pulled up/vanned up. Not exactly the answer the industry is looking for. I wonder what the creators of dirt are saying right now! Where are they? Why are they so silent? Oh yeah, dirt is a natural surface and you cant charge millions of dollars for it unless your running a greenhouse. ha!
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:20 PM
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It's absolutely incredible that the track super is saying it's soft when a respected rider is coming off of it pointing to concrete and saying they might as well be racing on that and comparing it to the Bonneville Salt Flats. I mean, 6.5f in 1:13.69 for second level allowance horses doesn't come on a soft track. These horses are running 7f faster than it took them to run 6f at Del Mar.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:22 PM
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On the other hand I heard Arlington Park has handled the snow incredibly well
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:24 PM
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On the other hand I heard Arlington Park has handled the snow incredibly well
Because it was sealed back in September when training stopped
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