Belichick--Coach of the Year

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Romeo...where are thou?

[Cannon Shell]

When you go 16-0 you are the coach of the year. Who possibly did a better job than a guy whose team didn't lose?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When you go 16-0 you are the coach of the year. Who possibly did a better job than a guy whose team didn't lose?

That's true. It's not like Randy Moss or Stallworth could've gone elsewhere for lots more money. Oh wait....

[Cannon Shell]

Getting through a season with no Randy Moss meltdowns alone is a tremendous accomplishment

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Getting through a season with no Randy Moss meltdowns alone is a tremendous accomplishment

He's a smart guy. It's unfortunate he's the most self-centered football player of all time. If he actually was a professional he wouldn't have quit in Minnesota and Oakland just because they were losing.

Of course he's going to be on his best behavior on a team that has won 3 Super Bowls this decade. I hope they lose because he's trying to quit his way to a championship.

[hi_im_god]

why does coty have to be someone who coached their teams to a losing season the year before? weren't they the same ones that sucked last year?

it's like voting the reformed alcoholic "sober person of the year".

forget it. there's no argueing against 16-0. the right choice was made.

[Danzig]

no way any coach other than belicheck could get it this year with that 16-0 record.

loved his SI cover by the way....

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Getting through a season with no Randy Moss meltdowns alone is a tremendous accomplishment

winning cures all.............see TO's 2 rants this year-happen to be the games that the cowboys lost. hopefully will see one more TO rant!

[2 Dollar Bill]

Did he win a New ""cutoff arms"" hoodie , for being C O Y ?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When you go 16-0 you are the coach of the year. Who possibly did a better job than a guy whose team didn't lose?

He took a veteran team and improved them from a 12-4 record last year in a terrible division that had 12 total wins between all 3 teams and made them 16-0. I think taking the youngest team in football from 8-8 last year to 13-3 is more deserving.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by wiphan

He took a veteran team and improved them from a 12-4 record last year in a terrible division that had 12 total wins between all 3 teams and made them 16-0. I think taking the youngest team in football from 8-8 last year to 13-3 is more deserving.

Uh they lost ZERO games. Plenty of teams improve year to year. They did something that has never been done, win 16 in a row. I think improving a 12 win team 4 games is a much greater task than improving a mediocre team. They didn't play well in 2 games out of 16 and won anyway. Those other guys did nice jobs but an undefeated NFL season has to win the award.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh they lost ZERO games. Plenty of teams improve year to year. They did something that has never been done, win 16 in a row. I think improving a 12 win team 4 games is a much greater task than improving a mediocre team. They didn't play well in 2 games out of 16 and won anyway. Those other guys did nice jobs but an undefeated NFL season has to win the award.

I agree it was impressive to go 16-0, especially since they found a way to win when they shouldn't have, however he did also lose a first round draft pick for their team and get fined $500k for cheating.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I agree it was impressive to go 16-0, especially since they found a way to win when they shouldn't have, however he did also lose a first round draft pick for their team and get fined $500k for cheating.

Even more reason since you know the victories were clean!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh they lost ZERO games. Plenty of teams improve year to year. They did something that has never been done, win 16 in a row. I think improving a 12 win team 4 games is a much greater task than improving a mediocre team. They didn't play well in 2 games out of 16 and won anyway. Those other guys did nice jobs but an undefeated NFL season has to win the award.

Gotta' disagree...I don't think adding 4 wins with the pre-season SuperBowl fave that just added Randy Moss is a better accomplishment than adding 5 wins with the NFL's youngest team, an aging QB that supposedly was washed up, no running game until Week 7, one proven WR, a rookie place kicker and playing in arguably one of the hardest divisions top to bottom.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Gotta' disagree...I don't think adding 4 wins with the pre-season SuperBowl fave that just added Randy Moss is a better accomplishment than adding 5 wins with the NFL's youngest team, an aging QB that supposedly was washed up, no running game until Week 7, one proven WR, a rookie place kicker and playing in arguably one of the hardest divisions top to bottom.

But the QB is one of the top 3 or 4 and you lost 2 times to the Bears (which is really bad).

Your guy did a nice job but the other guy did something that none of the other great coaches or teams (save 1) did. Not Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry. It is a historical season that they had. Green Bay had a very good season. To me that is the difference.

Let me ask you a question? Do you think that the Pats would have gone undefeated with any other coach? They starting defense is full of guys as old as me, they recently lost the best kicker in the history of the game, they played the third string running back over half of the year, and with few exceptions blew everybody out. Sure they have some great players but he got them to perform 16 weeks in a row. Hell the freaking linebackers are catching TD passes every week. The guy is a great coach, and he was at his best this year.

I cant believe you haven't metioned the Swisher trade yet???

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But the QB is one of the top 3 or 4 and you lost 2 times to the Bears (which is really bad).

Your guy did a nice job but the other guy did something that none of the other great coaches or teams (save 1) did. Not Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry. It is a historical season that they had. Green Bay had a very good season. To me that is the difference.

Let me ask you a question? Do you think that the Pats would have gone undefeated with any other coach? They starting defense is full of guys as old as me, they recently lost the best kicker in the history of the game, they played the third string running back over half of the year, and with few exceptions blew everybody out. Sure they have some great players but he got them to perform 16 weeks in a row. Hell the freaking linebackers are catching TD passes every week. The guy is a great coach, and he was at his best this year.

I cant believe you haven't metioned the Swisher trade yet???

Please..one debacle at a time..

OK..If the Pats had gone 15-1..is he COY..14-2? Where is the line drawn or is the only thing that matters 16-0? And I'm not saying he isn't a great coach, but yes, I am saying that half..ok..a quarter of the NFL coaches could have gone 16-0 with that team ( that otta' be good for a few retorts)..

Regarding Swisher, that, in my mind secures Kenny Williams as Exec of the Year