BCS shafted Mizzou and the fans....

[King Glorious]

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

Teams outside the Big Six BCS leagues that have earned an at-large are now 2-1 in BCS bowl games... that says enough for me.

[King Glorious]

There is a difference in playing a team in a BCS game and playing a legitimate title contender in a BCS game. For instance, say Hawaii had been pitted against Kansas. I think they would have had a chance against a team like Kansas, a team that shouldn't be in a BCS game in the first place. I think that this year, Georgia is legitimately one of the four best teams in the country.

[JJP]

I heard that bookmakers in Vegas and offshore would've had USC favored over either LSU or Ohio State. Yet they aren't in the title game. Once again, the BCS f-ks up.

I'd be satisfied with a 4 team playoff, since I know 8 or 16 would be way too over the top for the hard core traditionalists.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by JJP

I heard that bookmakers in Vegas and offshore would've had USC favored over either LSU or Ohio State. Yet they aren't in the title game. Once again, the BCS f-ks up.

I'd be satisfied with a 4 team playoff, since I know 8 or 16 would be way too over the top for the hard core traditionalists.

usc effed themselves up losing to stanford.

Originally Posted by Danzig

usc effed themselves up losing to stanford.

USC should be automatically penalized.

They lost to Stanford, who in turn lost to Notre Dame.

Notre Dame's 2 wins came off Pac-10 teams (Stanford, UCLA).
In my distorted mind, that eliminates any Pac-10
team from a National Title game.

In hindsight now, it looks like Mizz. and Georgia both
got slighted with horrible opponents. I am also starting to
wonder about Mr. Stoops and his bowl game preps.

Sooner fans are getting heavy doses of depression
in January. This makes 3 very humbling (nah make that humiliating)
loses when favored.
USC, Boise, now W.Va.

[alysheba4]

without a playoff, the WHOLE bcs thing is a complete joke......... when was the last time o.s played??? almost 2 months ago. none of these games mean dick.

[rontheman1964]

I have trouble with the BCS penalizing Mizzou for making their conference championship game and losing. Their only 2 losses are to the same team...Oklahoma....a BCS team. Kansas gets into a BCS bowl as the "Cinderella team" when Missouri has beaten them head-to-head. Mizzou also owns a win over another BCS team...Illinois.

It seems a team is better off not taking the risk of a late season loss and NOT play in their conference championship game. (Example- Georgia) Or to not have a championship game at all (USC and Ohio St and Illinois). Maybe Mizzou should have declined to play OU again and made a BCS game that way.

Also, what is wrong with looking for better match-ups? How about Kansas vs Hawaii if you have to have both in th BCS? How about both at large teams playing each other....USC vs Georgia? This system could be so much more entertaining to the fans if we could break from the structure of conference tie-ins and having specific conferences dictate where they will or won't play (Pac-10 and Big-10). Make those two cry-baby conferences adopt a championship game so they are on equal footing with the other major conferences. Then they will have the same opportunity for the late season win or loss that puts them in or out of the BCS title game. (Then they won't have the 60 day layoff between their last game and the BCS title game.)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

also depends on when you are a loser in the season--lose early and have a chance to move back up. lose late, too bad.
always a problem when opinion decides who's best, rather than proving it on a field.
case in point, i thought OU would handle WVA.