p val gets the boot again

hoovesupsideyourhead · #1 12-28-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I for one will wish him the best in his war against his demons and hope he can come back clean and sober.

I find it to be a character flaw to kick someone when their addictions take everything away from them.

We all have our faults.

f him he has talent and pissed away many times..

cowgirlintexas · #2 12-28-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

f him he has talent and pissed away many times..

Here, Here

hi_im_god · #3 12-28-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

f him he has talent and pissed away many times..

he'd never have had the extra chances if he wasn't talanted. journeymen with substance issues aren't worth the problems.

the ability in someone with his problem is the proverbial double edged sword. he gets more chances because of it. that means he can go longer than less talanted people before he really has to deal with it.

i know it seems like it's unfair but he's the marketplace in action.

if you're really pissed about it take some solace in this. i guarentee he is hollow inside until he gets a grip on the problem. whatever the outside appearence the guy is suffering.

Rudeboyelvis · #4 12-28-2007, 10:33 PM

Not to make light of the situation, drinking and driving and all...but the idea of a jock going through a fast food drive thru at 3 am is pure comedy gold...

Track Annoucer: "Late Changes: All of P Val's mounts 3lbs over due to late nite Baja Supreemo Double Steak Gorditas"...lol

SCUDSBROTHER · #5 12-28-2007, 10:46 PM

You can tell his lifestyle has taken a hit.He is hangin' out in Upland instead of the Pasadena/Arcadia/Sierra Madre areas.

2Hot4TV · #6 12-29-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Not to make light of the situation, drinking and driving and all...but the idea of a jock going through a fast food drive thru at 3 am is pure comedy gold...

Track Annoucer: "Late Changes: All of P Val's mounts 3lbs over due to late nite Baja Supreemo Double Steak Gorditas"...lol

It made me snicker too.

The DUI part can not be tolerated, but to take his job away. Rehab and only let him work horses with testing for drugs.

Danzig · #7 12-29-2007, 08:03 AM

other jocks have lost their licenses for less, p val has had so many chances, and continues to blow them. pointing out that he is a troubled person who can't seem to help himself isn't kicking him when he's down, it's the truth.
the chrb is partly at fault with his continued issues, as they continue to give him 'one more chance'. so where is the incentive to get help?
much like cole norman, he won't do anything about the situation until HE feels there is a problem, and he is ready to do something about it.

i think p val should have to go thru a substantial program, and then remain clean and sober for a year after exiting that program, with clean tests throughout that year, before they even consider giving him a license again.

cowgirlintexas · #8 12-29-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

It made me snicker too.

The DUI part can not be tolerated, but to take his job away. Rehab and only let him work horses with testing for drugs.

I agree, abit absurd really... He was'nt even riding a horse or near a racetrack... Personally, I don't think he should be punished at his job for driving a car drunk.. That should be a whole seperate deal. Be different if he failed a breathalizer at the track.

Danzig · #9 12-29-2007, 08:09 AM

except that everyone seems to forget that p val agreed to all the stipulations in that deal with the chrb, in order to get his license. not for nothing is it called 'conditional'. he broke a condition of the license. besides, there are plenty of jobs out there that if you get a dui off duty, it can cost you your job--mainly anyone who drives for their company, whether a truck/18 wheeler or a company vehicle, etc, because the insurance co won't cover you.

2Hot4TV · #10 12-29-2007, 08:12 AM

The race track and party life is what Pat grew up in. Old habits are hard to break when the money comes so easy. He will regret this till the day he dies.

Danzig · #11 12-29-2007, 08:17 AM

except that we have seen others with problems beat them, without all the continued drama and back and forth. it's like a game to pval, beat the chrb. then he wants every one to feel sorry for him when he effs up again-oh, don't take his job away. hell, he's trying to give it away!

Bigsmc · #12 12-29-2007, 08:16 AM

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I agree, abit absurd really... He was'nt even riding a horse or near a racetrack... Personally, I don't think he should be punished at his job for driving a car drunk.. That should be a whole seperate deal. Be different if he failed a breathalizer at the track.

No jock is punished for that....unless, he has had a sordid past, filled with drug and alcohol problems, leaving owners and trainers in the lurch, etc....
Then you end up with the conditions laid out before him in order to ride again. He agreed to those conditions and broke them, end of story, end of P. Val.

As someone previously said, as long as they continue to license him, they are enabling him. What incentive does he have to get well if just sitting out for a period of time, passing the drug tests and taking a slap on the wrist is all he has to do to get back to riding?

Enough already.

#13 12-28-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

he'd never have had the extra chances if he wasn't talanted. journeymen with substance issues aren't worth the problems.

the ability in someone with his problem is the proverbial double edged sword. he gets more chances because of it. that means he can go longer than less talanted people before he really has to deal with it.

i know it seems like it's unfair but he's the marketplace in action.

if you're really pissed about it take some solace in this. i guarentee he is hollow inside until he gets a grip on the problem. whatever the outside appearence the guy is suffering.

No doubt.
I dont think this is a party thing.

This is chronic and serious.
After he shaved all his body
hair I was convinced he has no
clue how to help himself.

I dont know if one is supposed to pity this, or what.
But he clearly cannot help himself.
Another case of self medicating athlete.
an athlete that needs medical help.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #14 12-28-2007, 11:18 PM

he was a money making machine..his handlers f-ed him ..he did not get this way without his people sticking him in bad deals..with the wrong people...

that line of blow will not make you hungry... he is a weak minder moron who has had the same bad friends sence he got big time..........want fries with that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,