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Old 12-27-2007, 10:34 AM
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As I said in the first reply to my thread... I'm not tryin to start an argument over a dude's death.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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Mountaineer Park is a shithole compared to NorCal and Maryland when Leatherbury was at his prime.

But really I say put him in the Hall of Fame. That place is a joke anyways. It's arguably the worst Hall of Fame for any sport on the planet because people in racing don't know how to define greatness.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:42 AM
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Mountaineer Park is a shithole compared to NorCal and Maryland when Leatherbury was at his prime.
And yet is paradise compared to the days when Baird racked up a large number of his wins at the old Mountaineer, Waterford Park.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:25 AM
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Baird also owned all -- or nearly all -- of the winners he trained. So, he's not just the leading all tme trainer for number of wins but it's very likely he is also leading owner for all-time wins (maybe one of the industry-types here have access to a list of historical # of wins by owner).

He is in the HBPA Hall of Fame.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:06 PM
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Mountaineer Park is a shithole compared to NorCal and Maryland when Leatherbury was at his prime.

But really I say put him in the Hall of Fame. That place is a joke anyways. It's arguably the worst Hall of Fame for any sport on the planet because people in racing don't know how to define greatness.
We certainly have different perspectives on what greatness is. Not everyone can have the kind of horses that Pletch and Frankel and the big tymers get... So Baird should be penalized because Godolphin isn't sending him a million-dollar baby that could get to the Derby ever? So you're saying success in Grade 1s and total wins at Belmont is the only thing that is HOF worthy? What do you think about Russell Baze? He's not as good as Pincay IMO, because Pincay did it on a bigger stage, but still Baze is HOF worthy.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:15 PM
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We certainly have different perspectives on what greatness is. Not everyone can have the kind of horses that Pletch and Frankel and the big tymers get... So Baird should be penalized because Godolphin isn't sending him a million-dollar baby that could get to the Derby ever? So you're saying success in Grade 1s and total wins at Belmont is the only thing that is HOF worthy? What do you think about Russell Baze? He's not as good as Pincay IMO, because Pincay did it on a bigger stage, but still Baze is HOF worthy.
Yes!! You got it!! Baird should be penalized because Godolphin isn't sending him $4000 claimers!!

Whoo hoo!!!!

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Old 12-27-2007, 12:30 PM
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Yes!! You got it!! Baird should be penalized because Godolphin isn't sending him $4000 claimers!!

Whoo hoo!!!!

*head explodes*
We agree to disagree... Have fun bettin your 6-horse field grade 1s. That 5/2 shot you'll hit is really nice value...

R.I.P. Dale Baird.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:41 PM
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We agree to disagree... Have fun bettin your 6-horse field grade 1s. That 5/2 shot you'll hit is really nice value...

R.I.P. Dale Baird.
Good for you. Maybe one day you can move into a house that doesn't have power lines over it.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:55 PM
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Good for you. Maybe one day you can move into a house that doesn't have power lines over it.
Ahhh the Holiday season...
It brings such joy and understanding.

A sad thread takes an interesting turn
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