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Old 07-27-2006, 01:06 AM
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Hey Bold, I stumbled on something you might be interested in! I just noticed they're having night classes at the local college about the Congo for those "uninformed" Americans.

Perhaps after that, you could give me some dance lessons. You seem especially apt at dancing around an issue.

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Old 07-27-2006, 06:56 AM
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The whole Congo situation makes me sick. Around 4 million people dead, and no meaningful action from any of the global powers. Even from a self-interest perspective, you'd think we'd care because further instability in Africa could create more of those Terrorists we're so frantic about...look at what's happening in Somalia, where the next potential group of extremists is rising to power. Not good, man. But Africa's always been on the world's backburner, except when it has something "worth" exploiting, be that oil, diamonds or people. I am not saying there's an easy solution -- anything but, considering how deep and entangled the roots of Africa's woes are -- however, the problems will only get worse if the next generation of children is decimated by this war and ensuing famines & disease.

Anyone here read "King Leopold's Ghost"? It's a good look at the holocaust perpetuated by colonialists in the Congo. Well-researched, good read (more a haunting read, but still good, if you know what I mean). The second half introduced me to it after he came back from a trip to Cape Town that really opened his eyes.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:35 AM
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Hey Bold, I stumbled on something you might be interested in! I just noticed they're having night classes at the local college about the Congo for those "uninformed" Americans.

Perhaps after that, you could give me some dance lessons. You seem especially apt at dancing around an issue.
LOL. I think there are a couple of more on here that could sit right next to brooklynite fool in class. Im sure he thanks you for the heads up.

Dance teacher....now there is a thought. I think this one has found your calling brooklynite fool.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:53 AM
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Africa is to blame for a lot of its own problems too. It clearly has been exploited by the world powers but the people there have to have some accountability. Their leaders often invited the exploitation of their people.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:25 AM
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Not disagreeing with you on that at all. Just saying that if 4 million people were dying in a developed part of the world, we'd (as in, the rest of the developed world) probably take notice.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:27 AM
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Not disagreeing with you on that at all. Just saying that if 4 million people were dying in a developed part of the world, we'd (as in, the rest of the developed world) probably take notice.
Absolutely. But you can't blame everything on Republicans. What Bill Clinton allowed to happen in Rwanda was unforgivable. Worst thing our government has allowed to happen in a long time.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:19 AM
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Hold on, do you see the words Republican or conservative anywhere in my post??? I wasn't talking exclusively about the current administration!

I hold all of us culpable, whatever our political stripes. We have all failed here.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:25 AM
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Hold on, do you see the words Republican or conservative anywhere in my post??? I wasn't talking exclusively about the current administration!

I hold all of us culpable, whatever our political stripes. We have all failed here.
I love your views Irish Trekker. It truly doesnt break down to either party. Its not too late- YET. But eventually, all of our failures will come back to seriously haunt us.

We have to make a decision on how we identify our role in the rest of the world and stay as consistent as possible. I realize, with administrations changing so regularly that is difficult but at the same time we have to have an idea as a people as far as what we want to accomplish.

Maybe isolationism is the best way (i dont think so). Maybe we truly become this "beacon of freedom and liberty" that the spin doctors try to pass us off as we crush liberty in the name of money and self serving interests. Either way, we have to have a direction.
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:01 AM
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LOL. I think there are a couple of more on here that could sit right next to brooklynite fool in class. Im sure he thanks you for the heads up.

Dance teacher....now there is a thought. I think this one has found your calling brooklynite fool.
I don't know you, but I love you anyway!
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