KNS: #2, Tampa 4th Friday

[Scav]

Just so everyone knows, it is mandotory that if you want to hang around with Bigsmc, that you buy his two young daughters ice cream, especially the youngest one that rocks the chocolate chip cookie dough.

[Kasept]

DRF's Paul Malecki, whose opinion I respect a lot, has KNS on top...

Kickin N Screamin
Privacy
Show Me Baby

[letswastemoney]

I'm not part of this but I heard something about a tee pee?

[golfer]

A few thoughts after taking a look at the TG sheets:

This appears to be a very evenly matched race, with at least 7 of the horses all within a point or two of the same range (TG 14), as well as some of the ae's.

KNS's top of 12 on the turf is 2nd fastest coming in (only Privacy's 11.5 is faster, but it was isolated). Dini's Show Me Baby has faster #'s on dirt and poly, but her 2 turf races were not that good.
KNS shows a very solid pattern of races between 12 and 15, now gets the freshening, runs 2nd time lasix, adds blinkers as well as Simon racing (obviously). All she needs to do is improve a few points, and she looks strong. Even if she just runs back to her previous #'s, she still fits well with these.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by golfer

A few thoughts after taking a look at the TG sheets:

This appears to be a very evenly matched race, with at least 7 of the horses all within a point or two of the same range (TG 14), as well as some of the ae's.

KNS's top of 12 on the turf is 2nd fastest coming in (only Privacy's 11.5 is faster, but it was isolated). Dini's Show Me Baby has faster #'s on dirt and poly, but her 2 turf races were not that good.
KNS shows a very solid pattern of races between 12 and 15, now gets the freshening, runs 2nd time lasix, adds blinkers as well as Simon racing (obviously). All she needs to do is improve a few points, and she looks strong. Even if she just runs back to her previous #'s, she still fits well with these.

I agree with you. I just have a question about 2nd time lasix. If a horse doesn't race for 40+ days does getting lasix again still count as a 2nd time. I do take note when it is within a few weeks. I just don't know.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I agree with you. I just have a question about 2nd time lasix. If a horse doesn't race for 40+ days does getting lasix again still count as a 2nd time. I do take note when it is within a few weeks. I just don't know.

Maybe I am missing out on a great handicapping angle, but 2nd time lasix is not ever a consideration for me. Didn't even notice she was 2nd time lasix until I read your post.

[Uncle Daddy]

Good Luck to all the DTers and KNS partners. I will have to catch it on satellite or at the luxurious Hazel Park raceway.

Quick look at the race has me wondering about pace. Danica and Show me may have the lead to themselves.

Enjoy the races and the DT party.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I agree with you. I just have a question about 2nd time lasix. If a horse doesn't race for 40+ days does getting lasix again still count as a 2nd time. I do take note when it is within a few weeks. I just don't know.

This is the way I look at it, sort of: when a horse bleeds at a certain point in a race, the next time out gets Lasix and doesn't bleed at that same point, they keep running, thus improving. However, if the bleeding incident was memorable to the horse, he or she may still slow down at the same point in the next race, despite not bleeding. Which means the 2nd time they run with lasix and don't bleed, they may improve, when they didn't do it the first time. I know I have read this explanation somewhere before, I didn't make it up, I just don't remember where.
Hope this helps, or maybe not

I forgot the point of all this: KNS went back 2 points when getting first Lasix in her last start.

[pweizer]

Second time lasix can definitely be a help to a horse. However, what is really going to move this horse up is the change of trainers. Just go back and look at the before and after pictures on this site to see how our horse has thrived. As much as she looks like she fits on paper, this is going to be a totally different horse tomorrow compared to what is in her PPs.

Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow.

Paul

[Scav]

Originally Posted by golfer

I forgot the point of all this: KNS went back 2 points when getting first Lasix in her last start.

that move back really isn't a move back because of the surface switch. Analyzing her TG sheet is pretty simple if you ask me. You have a horse that was a great purchase for 20k given that she has barely improved for a trainer that hasn't done alot. KNS is a turf router, and she finally got to do that at Churchill, which was her top, and then sent to River to break her maiden. She has alot of room for improve, which you dont find in 20k claimers very often. That improvement is up to the horse, because the crew is doing all they can to get her ready to go. With a good performance tomorrow, she will fit amazingly into the condition books of places like Churchill and Arlington where they run many high level claimers on the lawn.