And latest Barbaro update

That is one special horse.

You know I heard a pretty good conversation on the Barbaro issue over the weekend. I didn't add one thing to the conversation, I was just listening. Everyone at the table agreed that saving Barbaro was of the utmost importance for racing. But now the bar has been set to try and save every horse that breaks down and gets laminitis. Barbaro's condition as far as his fracture and his laminitis is about the worse you can get. But the majority of horse owners do not have the money to spend on a horse like the Jackson's have. So now the arguement in the future is going to be "well they saved Barbaro, why can't they save your horse." There is only one answer...MONEY. I wonder how the casual public will take to that answer. Just sort of interesting to think about.

But keep on keeping on Barbaro--you are one amazing animal.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You know I heard a pretty good conversation on the Barbaro issue over the weekend. I didn't add one thing to the conversation, I was just listening. Everyone at the table agreed that saving Barbaro was of the utmost importance for racing. But now the bar has been set to try and save every horse that breaks down and gets laminitis. Barbaro's condition as far as his fracture and his laminitis is about the worse you can get. But the majority of horse owners do not have the money to spend on a horse like the Jackson's have. So now the arguement in the future is going to be "well they saved Barbaro, why can't they save your horse." There is only one answer...MONEY. I wonder how the casual public will take to that answer. Just sort of interesting to think about.

But keep on keeping on Barbaro--you are one amazing animal.

That isn't really true. The casual public doesn't even pay attention and the people in the business know that money runs everything. You can't save every horse, just like you can't save every dog or cat in a shelter. The casual public doesn't even get concerned when people are dying of starvation all over the world, they are more concerned with their own lives and complaining about how much they are paying for gas.

Originally Posted by boldruler

That isn't really true. The casual public doesn't even pay attention and the people in the business know that money runs everything. You can't save every horse, just like you can't save every dog or cat in a shelter. The casual public doesn't even get concerned when people are dying of starvation all over the world, they are more concerned with their own lives and complaining about how much they are paying for gas.

Maybe I didnt make my point clear. When the casual public watches the Derby, Preakness, Belmont and Breeders Cup and see a horse break down and then the horse is put down, they will be saying--you saved Barbaro but not this horse? They will not accept the answer of MONEY as acceptable.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Maybe I didnt make my point clear. When the casual public watches the Derby, Preakness, Belmont and Breeders Cup and see a horse break down and then the horse is put down, they will be saying--you saved Barbaro but not this horse? They will not accept the answer of MONEY as acceptable.

No they won't. The casual public watches for 2 minutes and then turns the channel. They don't understand types of injuries or anything like that. What are the odds of that happening anyway? This is 2006, people understand that money runs everything.

[GenuineRisk]

The type of injury may still play a factor-- one of the few things that went in Barbaro's favor is that the skin wasn't broken in the initial accident. In a case like Ruffian's, by the time Vasquez got her pulled up she'd nearly torn the foot off.

I would guess any time it's a Classics winner, they'll do their best to save him (her). A Classics also-ran-- well, I guess that will be up to the owner.

And a lot of this will still hinge on whether Barbaro makes it. If he (God forbid) doesn't pull through, I wouldn't be surprised to see people yell that he should have been put out of his misery right away.

And how long before I move off of "Bowie?"

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

The type of injury may still play a factor-- one of the few things that went in Barbaro's favor is that the skin wasn't broken in the initial accident. In a case like Ruffian's, by the time Vasquez got her pulled up she'd nearly torn the foot off.

I thought I heard her injury was less severe. They tried to save her, but she reinjured herself coming out anesthesia.

Originally Posted by boldruler

No they won't. The casual public watches for 2 minutes and then turns the channel. They don't understand types of injuries or anything like that. What are the odds of that happening anyway? This is 2006, people understand that money runs everything.

Bold you made my point for me. The casual fan doesnt understand horse inuries. That is why they will say--well you saved Barbaro, why not this horse.

and at the same time ... the horse slaughter issue is in the public eye!!!

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Bold you made my point for me. The casual fan doesnt understand horse inuries. That is why they will say--well you saved Barbaro, why not this horse.

No, I am just saying they won't even care one way or another. The race is over and then they will tune in maybe for next years KD.

If you look at Horatio Nelson, in a country where people are much more passionate about racing, they just said it was terrible and moved on. That is the way the world is.

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Originally Posted by boldruler

No they won't. The casual public watches for 2 minutes and then turns the channel. They don't understand types of injuries or anything like that. What are the odds of that happening anyway? This is 2006, people understand that money runs everything.

Bold...that WAS true before Barbaro....now I get all of my friends and aquaintances asking me, albiet every once in a while , how Barbaro is doing.
Most of them realize that this is somewhat unusual that that money is probably the reason that he's still with us.
But my point is NBC kept their cameras on him SO LONG that the casual watcher is now aware of the sport's casualties/injuries. Some of my friends refuse to watch now but like I said, my friends who dont watch often want to know what has become of him.

It was terrible... your right the camera's stayed on him for toooo long... JJ told them to get the camera off him... then again at the barn they were trying to get pics.. JJ and me got security to bring screens and we held them with the guards... they don't realize (or care to I guess) the negative impact...