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Old 12-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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What's really amazing is that three years ago Spitzer wanted NYRA out and Bruno was defending them.
That's how F-up politics are in this state!
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:18 AM
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My take on the matter is that I've thought for a long time that Spitzer just loathes racing and if he could ban racing in the State-as it was in 1911 and 1912-he would do. Perhaps by delaying until September 4th he thought he could rid the state of the sport for at least a few months...

Bruno however is just as bad, maybe worse, and his agenda is now the one that's threatening so many peoples liveliehoods.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:33 AM
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:41 AM
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:43 AM
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My take on the matter is that I've thought for a long time that Spitzer just loathes racing and if he could ban racing in the State-as it was in 1911 and 1912-he would do. Perhaps by delaying until September 4th he thought he could rid the state of the sport for at least a few months...

Bruno however is just as bad, maybe worse, and his agenda is now the one that's threatening so many peoples liveliehoods.
Apparenty you didn't see him on Travers Day. He arrived, with his family, at the beginning of the card, was betting early and often, and having a great time.

Your " take " is simply not true.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:08 AM
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As much as I disagree with Gov. Spitzer, he certainly is the lesser of two evils in this fight. Plus he got it right when he called Bruno a "senile piece of s**t."
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:08 PM
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According to "The Blood Horse", NYRA has been offered a temporary extension. If I'm Charlie Hayward, I tell them to stick it.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:36 PM
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According to "The Blood Horse", NYRA has been offered a temporary extension. If I'm Charlie Hayward, I tell them to stick it.
PG..

Hayward has said he's ammenable to the extension AS LONG AS the basics of the MOU, with any agreed-to changes, is in place and simply awaiting formal approvals...
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:19 PM
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http://timesunion.com/AspStories/sto...ate=12/16/2007

This story gets it pretty much right. Bruno is caught between a rock and a hard place - in his warped world. In order to stop what Spitzer was looking to do (and not admit it is about the slots), Bruno has been forced into bashing NYRA. However, the thoroughbred industry and the Saratoga City leaders are pro-NYRA, so now he's doing things against the wishes of his constituents. The result is that he's been getting huge heat from his constituents, who see him as more a part of the problem than part of the solution on this issue.

Bruno now either has to accede to the wishes of his constituents - and let Spitzer "win" this issue, which Bruno is loathe to do. Or he continues to fight Spitzer and support a well-financed donor (Capital Play), at the risk of further alienating his constituents.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:30 PM
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This extension for the NYRA beyond Dec. 31 makes little sense. There's been plenty of time to resolve this matter. All the extension does is enable this stalemate to go on for an indefinate period of time.

The deal should be finalized by Dec. 31 or NYRA should shut down racing to get it done.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:38 PM
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This extension for the NYRA beyond Dec. 31 makes little sense. There's been plenty of time to resolve this matter. All the extension does is enable this stalemate to go on for an indefinate period of time.

The deal should be finalized by Dec. 31 or NYRA should shut down racing to get it done.
The 'deal' needs to be in place, from NYRA & Hayward's perspective by 12/27 which is when the Bancruptcy Court is scheduled to let the Association emerge from Chapter.. It needs to be in place as it's paramount within NYRA's plan that the Court already approved.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:25 PM
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Apparenty you didn't see him on Travers Day. He arrived, with his family, at the beginning of the card, was betting early and often, and having a great time.

Your " take " is simply not true.

And don't forget his "unannounced" appearance in the pressbox that stole the thunder when Steve Cauthen was there. Our governor really answered those tough questions that the media posed to him. Arrogant as ever! Both him and Bruno share equal blame with this whole fiasco.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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And don't forget his "unanounced" appearance in the pressbox that stole the thunder when Steve Cauthen was there. Our governor really answered those tough questions that the media posed to him. Arrogant as ever! Both him and Bruno share equal blame with this whole fiasco.

Wow....he stole the thunder from Steve Cauthen. Steve Cauthen took money to shill for one of the failed bidders.....no? Phuck him.

How exactly is Spitzer equally to blame in this particular situation? He made the correct franchise decision and did his part to further this process. Bruno simply tried to block it out of both personal animus and to curry favor towards his financial constituancy....while ignoring his supposed actual constituancy. He has attempted to submarine this entire process at every stop, while using questionable ethics, with absolutely no real plan of his own....or no viable plan.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:37 PM
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Wow....he stole the thunder from Steve Cauthen. Steve Cauthen took money to shill for one of the failed bidders.....no? Phuck him.

How exactly is Spitzer equally to blame in this particular situation? He made the correct franchise decision and did his part to further this process. Bruno simply tried to block it out of both personal animus and to curry favor towards his financial constituancy....while ignoring his supposed actual constituancy. He has attempted to submarine this entire process at every stop, while using questionable ethics, with absolutely no real plan of his own....or no viable plan.

Didn't he fire the first shot versus NYRA with the original investigation to get elected? If he wasn't looking for everything NYRA had done wrong under every rock, maybe it wouldn't have gotten to this point. This crap between Spitzer and Bruno goes beyond the NYRA situation.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:40 PM
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Spitzer may have used NYRA but he also may have had some legitimate points. Personally I think it's fair to say that NYRA is a much better organization as a result of Spitzer's investigation. I'm not saying that I think everything was fair, but I don't think it was completely unwarranted, and as a result I believe he helped create a better organization and one that should be running the franchise in the future. Spitzer obviously agrees with this and therefore did his part to ultimately move the process forward. Bruno has done his part to stop that....and not for a wholesome reason.
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