Mitchell Report Guessing Game

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Andy P. comes clean.
And Roger had the same trainer and this was his workout partner...

And Andy claims that HGH was not illegal the way he used it. The drug policy in MLB is so screwed up and the rules have changed so many times... The NFL has BANNED HGH since way back, at least 15 years ago.

ANd people try to use the NFL to sanctify MLB....hmmmm. Sure the NFL has problems. But the NFL did not ask George Mitchell to come in and give a report. The Commisioner in the NFL has a little more of a grip than Selig.

I think Selig wants government intervention. No reason to ask for Mitchell to come in and investigate if its all hunky-dory.

However they have no way of testing for it so the ban is a total joke initself. The NFL does a much better job of keeping its PR machine working than does MLB. But after personally speaking to a number of current and former NFL players, I have been told that pretty much everybody is doing something.

[Mortimer]

Jamal Lewis=The Hulk

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

However they have no way of testing for it so the ban is a total joke initself. The NFL does a much better job of keeping its PR machine working than does MLB. But after personally speaking to a number of current and former NFL players, I have been told that pretty much everybody is doing something.

Yes they do.
Just not in urine.

Have they also told you there is no way to test for it.
ANd Merriman... why did they even bother?

This is not the NFL v. MLB.

Selig asked for a report from a guy who digs deep.
Why?

And if you dont think the federal government plays a role in anything, check out Iraq and your taxes. Professional sports are probably one of the more accessible "businesses" to intrude into. Besides this, there are clear federal laws prohibiting the sales of all these variants of testorone and HGH like compounds. When State governments start to test high school athletes, we have a problem.

There are also other ways to catch guys. They have the stuff on them. Very few people have use for HGH other than Ach. dwarfs. (Which is why the stuff was synthesized in the first place)

[hi_im_god]

what was the penalty a mlb player incurred for a positive steroids test in 2003? can someone look this up for me?

afterwards could you ask all the retards pointing at the nfl to just plead "no contest" so we don't have to go through the formality of a trial?

the nfl had random drug tests (without 24-48 hour notice to the teams they would be conducted) and actually suspended players who tested positive.

the mitchell report was a good day for baseball. pointing out the problem's of other's is just a way not to deal with your own.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

what was the penalty a mlb player incurred for a positive steroids test in 2003? can someone look this up for me?

afterwards could you ask all the retards pointing at the nfl to just plead "no contest" so we don't have to go through the formality of a trial?

the nfl had random drug tests (without 24-48 hour notice to the teams they would be conducted) and actually suspended players who tested positive.

the mitchell report was a good day for baseball. pointing out the problem's of other's is just a way not to deal with your own.

Us retards arent a actual part of baseball. If sharpies like you who actually believe that humans have advanced so far in 20 years that the 270 pound lineman who ran a 5.2 40 is now a "natural" 325 pound guy who runs a 4.8 40 than a look in the mirror may be needed. I never said anything other than the irony in the perception of the 2 sports both of which are dirty.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Us retards arent a actual part of baseball. If sharpies like you who actually believe that humans have advanced so far in 20 years that the 270 pound lineman who ran a 5.2 40 is now a "natural" 325 pound guy who runs a 4.8 40 than a look in the mirror may be needed. I never said anything other than the irony in the perception of the 2 sports both of which are dirty.

and i never said either sport was clean. i simply pointed out that one had a testing regimen that resulted in player suspensions and the other had the emperor's new clothes.

i'll argue nfl vs mlb drug policies all day long if you want. not like it would take a lot of effort.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

and i never said either sport was clean. i simply pointed out that one had a testing regimen that resulted in player suspensions and the other had the emperor's new clothes.

i'll argue nfl vs mlb drug policies all day long if you want. not like it would take a lot of effort.

This was never about drug policies, it was about perceptions. The NFL has tricked people including you, God, into believing it has clean players when nothing could be further to the truth. You have actually made my point for me, with little effort. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Us retards arent a actual part of baseball. If sharpies like you who actually believe that humans have advanced so far in 20 years that the 270 pound lineman who ran a 5.2 40 is now a "natural" 325 pound guy who runs a 4.8 40 than a look in the mirror may be needed. I never said anything other than the irony in the perception of the 2 sports both of which are dirty.

There are humans that can do this without enhancement from steriods. I know some of them also.

My neighbor down the street played on the SF superbowl teams as a offensive lineman. He was roided out in college. These were the 80's teams. No one said the drugs are not there. But the NFL has put more of an effort in to stop this crap. Baseball has done nothing.

ANd I still dont get why Selig asked George Mitchell to do this investigation if he wanted it all to go away. This report was not a joke. I am sure Roger will watch his endorsements go down the tube. And his standing arrangement with the Astros will be gone. They put players names out for a reason. It was a shot over the bow.

Can anyone explain why Selig asked for this report?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

There are humans that can do this without enhancement from steriods. I know some of them also.

My neighbor down the street played on the SF superbowl teams as a offensive lineman. He was roided out in college. These were the 80's teams. No one said the drugs are not there. But the NFL has put more of an effort in to stop this crap. Baseball has done nothing.

ANd I still dont get why Selig asked George Mitchell to do this investigation if he wanted it all to go away. This report was not a joke. I am sure Roger will watch his endorsements go down the tube. And his standing arrangement with the Astros will be gone. They put players names out for a reason. It was a shot over the bow.

Can anyone explain why Selig asked for this report?

had he not asked for it, he'd be in hot water. now the named players are in hot water instead.
he did nothing to giambi, so how can he to anyone else?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

This is not the NFL v. MLB.

Selig asked for a report from a guy who digs deep.
Why?

And if you dont think the federal government plays a role in anything, check out Iraq and your taxes. Professional sports are probably one of the more accessible "businesses" to intrude into. Besides this, there are clear federal laws prohibiting the sales of all these variants of testorone and HGH like compounds. When State governments start to test high school athletes, we have a problem.

There are also other ways to catch guys. They have the stuff on them. Very few people have use for HGH other than Ach. dwarfs. (Which is why the stuff was synthesized in the first place)

No one said it was NFL vs MLB but it ironic that that football which has a much larger problem is treated like they are clean which they are not. I also never said the federal govt doesnt play a role. I said that they dont get anything done. There are about a 1000 examples but I will just use yours, taxes and Iraq. Iraq needs no explination and can you find a better example of loopholes and poor regulaton than the American federal tax system?
"Having the stuff on them" using unsubstantiated testimony is really no more than hearsay. This report is PR and PR only. The owners and Selig are looking to cover their asses.