Mitchell Report Guessing Game

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I heard Costas on ESPN radio this morning.

One item with which I disagree (though this gets into the issue of Hall of Fame voting): Costas said that Bonds and Clemens should be withheld from the Hall on their first ballots. Nonsense. That's not punishment if they are subdequently voted into the Hall.

Either they've satisfied the requirements or they haven't.

That's ludicrous. Who cares...if you really want to get technical you have to ban or withhold everyone for a year who played after 1984 as you have no idea who juiced and who didn't. Very few will admit it openly. I certainly believe Clemens used...but what do you have really?? The testimony of a guy. That's it. flimsy.

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They should all be shot and replaced with test lab monkeys.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Could there have been any more Mets' catchers on this list?

How did Mitchell miss Jerry Grote?

The ball sure did jump off Al Weis' bat in the fall of 1969 (for one swing, anyway).

Andy P. comes clean.
And Roger had the same trainer and this was his workout partner...

And Andy claims that HGH was not illegal the way he used it. The drug policy in MLB is so screwed up and the rules have changed so many times... The NFL has BANNED HGH since way back, at least 15 years ago.

ANd people try to use the NFL to sanctify MLB....hmmmm. Sure the NFL has problems. But the NFL did not ask George Mitchell to come in and give a report. The Commisioner in the NFL has a little more of a grip than Selig.

I think Selig wants government intervention. No reason to ask for Mitchell to come in and investigate if its all hunky-dory.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Andy P. comes clean.
And Roger had the same trainer and this was his workout partner...

And Andy claims that HGH was not illegal the way he used it. The drug policy in MLB is so screwed up and the rules have changed so many times... The NFL has BANNED HGH since way back, at least 15 years ago.

ANd people try to use the NFL to sanctify MLB....hmmmm. Sure the NFL has problems. But the NFL did not ask George Mitchell to come in and give a report. The Commisioner in the NFL has a little more of a grip than Selig.

I think Selig wants government intervention. No reason to ask for Mitchell to come in and investigate if its all hunky-dory.

However they have no way of testing for it so the ban is a total joke initself. The NFL does a much better job of keeping its PR machine working than does MLB. But after personally speaking to a number of current and former NFL players, I have been told that pretty much everybody is doing something.

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Jamal Lewis=The Hulk

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

However they have no way of testing for it so the ban is a total joke initself. The NFL does a much better job of keeping its PR machine working than does MLB. But after personally speaking to a number of current and former NFL players, I have been told that pretty much everybody is doing something.

Yes they do.
Just not in urine.

Have they also told you there is no way to test for it.
ANd Merriman... why did they even bother?

This is not the NFL v. MLB.

Selig asked for a report from a guy who digs deep.
Why?

And if you dont think the federal government plays a role in anything, check out Iraq and your taxes. Professional sports are probably one of the more accessible "businesses" to intrude into. Besides this, there are clear federal laws prohibiting the sales of all these variants of testorone and HGH like compounds. When State governments start to test high school athletes, we have a problem.

There are also other ways to catch guys. They have the stuff on them. Very few people have use for HGH other than Ach. dwarfs. (Which is why the stuff was synthesized in the first place)