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Old 12-10-2007, 08:50 PM
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Check the numbers for this year.
1 year doesn't make it a case study.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:58 PM
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1 year doesn't make it a case study.
You should make fortune cookies. Really enlightening stuff.

We'll just have to wait and see. I'll book any wager that says handle on Saturday in 2008 will increase from 2006's handle on BC day.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:07 PM
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You should make fortune cookies. Really enlightening stuff.

We'll just have to wait and see. I'll book any wager that says handle on Saturday in 2008 will increase from 2006's handle on BC day.
I applied, but they said you were doing an admirable job.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:21 PM
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Just a quick question for everyone to think about. Where is the BC going to get the new purse money? Do they have any NEW sponcers? Seems like they have lost more corporate sponcers over the years then then they have now(Bud, Mobil,etc.). Not just the "Trade" sponcers I mean real money. They do not pay for any travel or expences for the conections, and shipping of horses. With the percentages they get most tracks loose money hoisting the races on even one day, and now two days. And Greg A. can you tell us what track will be host in 2009? Nobody's bidding. TV ratings down, ticket prices up again?
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:23 PM
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I heard Emirates Air and Al Qaeda were going to flip a coin for sponsorship of the new races.


Don't quote me on that.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:33 PM
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I heard Emirates Air and Al Qaeda were going to flip a coin for sponsorship of the new races.


Don't quote me on that.
So if AQ wins the flip you will be billing for your 10% agent fee?
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:35 PM
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So if AQ wins the flip you will be billing for your 10% agent fee?
Yes. And then I'll celebrate by beating my wife.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:39 PM
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It doesn't matter if they make the races grade ones or not. Anyone with half a brain would be able to know that just because a horse wins a grade one race doesn't necessarily mean he's a true grade one horse. Does anyone believe that Flashy Bull, Jazil, or Colonial Colony are true grade one horses? Anyone that mistakenly believes that the winner of a new 12f BC race is automatically a world champion just because they name the races the World Championships is just an idiot anyway.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:13 PM
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Yes. And then I'll celebrate by beating my wife.

Are you not getting tired of that by now? I know, why don't you try beating yourself? Oh I'm sorry, that question is a little old. You have been beating yourself OFF and on for sometime now.


Domestic Violence "jokes"- Nice Pillow Pants real nice.


Sorry everyone I just wanted to talk about horseracing. OUT
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:32 PM
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Just a quick question for everyone to think about. Where is the BC going to get the new purse money? Do they have any NEW sponcers?
The Breeders Cup races (day of event and leadup) are funded by annual foal crop and horses of racing age nominations, and annual stallion nominations (fee equal to stallions advertised stud fee, or at least $1000).

I don't think funding is a concern
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:56 PM
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The Breeders Cup races (day of event and leadup) are funded by annual foal crop and horses of racing age nominations, and annual stallion nominations (fee equal to stallions advertised stud fee, or at least $1000).

I don't think funding is a concern

Point well taken. You are right. But if funding is not a concern, then why don't they at least supplement travel costs? It would help a little to attract oversees runners(depending on the host track) creating global exposure, and hopefully global sponcers. I know this has been thought of and talked about , but I wish they would strengthen what they have befor the 2 day plan spreds things to thin. IMO
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:12 PM
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it's a shame that 12 f is considered a marathon.

as for the new races, since this is called the breeders cup, how much input do breeders have regarding races?
and as for the differing distances, anything that would encourage breeders to look for different types of horses, rather than sprinter/milers who might carry speed 10f, has to be a good thing. right?

hey, at least the belmont won't be decried as a useless race due to it's distance. and maybe racetracks will card other races in line with the year end big day.

and maybe 'win and you're in' won't only deal with races on a certain network.
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