Whale's past post sets off alarm

Cannon Shell · #1 12-07-2007, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

If I were a trainer, whose livelihood depends upon the handle that drives purses, there is no way I'd type "Get over it" on this issue.

At the end of the day, I agree with you that this is a rare instance, but "Get over it" was bad form.

I did not know that my opinions needed to be qualified any differently because my "livelihood depends on" the issue. I would venture that this has been occuring for as long as machines were used to take wagers. Probably less now than ever.

Zaf · #2 12-07-2007, 03:55 PM

"He said that the stop wagering mechanism the stewards use malfunctioned, and that the mutual manager stopped wagering 15 seconds after the race began."

Nice to know that the highest forms of modern technology are being utilized.

SentToStud · #3 12-07-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaf

"He said that the stop wagering mechanism the stewards use malfunctioned, and that the mutual manager stopped wagering 15 seconds after the race began."

Nice to know that the highest forms of modern technology are being utilized.

Which begs the obvious question, just how the hell does he do that?

Payson Dave · #4 12-07-2007, 04:27 PM

A 15 second half mile would be awful quick...

GBBob · #5 12-07-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Which begs the obvious question, just how the hell does he do that?

He pulls the plug?

based on what I've read, that may not be too far from the truth

Cannon Shell · #6 12-07-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

I saw this response earlier today, but this question just came to mind:

If a Courier-Journal or Herald-Leader reporter asked you for your opinion on this instance, and you knew that you were going to be quoted for attribution, would you have said "Get over it?"

Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.

blackthroatedwind · #7 12-07-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

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I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.

At least we know you're uninvolved.

Cannon Shell · #8 12-07-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

At least we know you're uninvolved.

Been holding em for 2 years...I'll let you know...but dont get shut out!

2MinsToPost · #9 12-07-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.

Chuck I worked as a Teller for several months back a couple years ago. I speak regulary with many Tellers at my home track and have for years. If anyone should know about whether this is a problem or not it is a Teller at Beulah Park cause we have a large group of "gamblers" who play odds and numbers with 1 minute to post or less. They are shut out all the time.

Look, I sit at the same table when I am at the track which is right next to 2 Tellers who take a lot of action from the aforementioned players and in clear view of a dozen or more tv's. I don't see it as a crisis but rather an isolated incident that needs looked into.

SentToStud · #10 12-11-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.

Perhaps he's obsessed with Hacker Craft? Alas, HC probably wouldn't respond.

Cannon Shell · #11 12-11-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Perhaps he's obsessed with Hacker Craft? Alas, HC probably wouldn't respond.

He can satisfy his HC obsession by adding him to his xmas list. I will send him COD

SentToStud · #12 12-11-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Why does this matter to you?

I'm obsessed with Hacker Craft. I'm trying to stop.

Cannon Shell · #13 12-11-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Obsessed? Surely you don't believe that, or don't know the meaning of obsessed.

Had your "Get over it" appeared in a widely distributed medium, as opposed to a chat room, I doubt that horseplayers would have been thrilled, to say the least, with reading it. Clearly, I'm not the only one here who objected to your take on this issue, though I happen to agree with many of your points. I objected to one part of what you wrote.

Call it whatever you want. And if horseplayers are pissed so be it. It is my view on this one particular race.

If you can find a horseman that speaks up in support of horseplayers more than me, I would like to meet them.