Fixed game

Originally Posted by gales0678

wrong info mr bid

no where in the bcs does it say you have to win your confernce title to play in the bcs title game , all the comm'sof the leagues voted this into play

UGA cannot be disqualified because they didn't win the sec , if they get voted higher in the ap / coaches poll they will go ahead of LSU

and thye were voted higher last week

ESPN is a joke saying it's going to be LSU - does ESPN control all the voters

of course not , this is just as bad as when dan rather declared gore the winner in florida and the polls were still open in the western part of the stat in 2000,

espn is trying to get mud of it's face for the whole miles thing by saynig they should be in - a complete joke

Oklahoma did get in the BCS championship one year and did not win the Big 12.

[gales0678]

and so did nebraska

this is mis information by people saying UGA can't not play in the BCS game cuse they didn't win the SEC

Originally Posted by gales0678

and so did nebraska

this is mis information by people saying UGA can't not play in the BCS game cuse they didn't win the SEC

My bad, I think I mistook Oklahoma for Nebraska.
The point is the same.

[Cannon Shell]

The only thing more troubling than the corrupt college presidents refusing to create a playoff system is the calls against Pitt last night. I did not have a penny on the game and have no rooting interest for or against either team (though Wannstedt sucks, old Dolphins anomosity) But there were 2 holding calls against PITT that almost changed the outcome. Bad calls at anytime. But major homer calls when made 2 times in crucial situations.

I have said before that I am the biggest Hawaii fan on the mainland but despite the undefeated season they are not and should not be title game contenders based on this system (I think). I do believe that the schedule they play should not be held against them as much as the schools in the major conferences though. They have no control over the strength of their conference foes. They are not a huge school that gets a ton of bowl money from the WAC. They have a signifigant travel cost to go anywhere. No one with anything to lose will go to Hawaii to play them. Any road game for them is at least a cross country trip that no other team has to go through. But they do deserve a BCS spot. June Jones doesnt get much credit but he takes a bunch of Samoans and rejects and made them into consistent winners. His receivers are as good as anyone. They may be undersized but run perfect routes, catch the ball and run well after the catch. The defense is a little slow and undersized but rotates 8 lineman and plays aggressive. Brennan needs to add a little bulk but has an NFL arm and great field vision. He is better than the trash that the Bears or Dolphins trot out there every week.

I was wrong about Oklahoma. They were very impressive on both sides of the ball. I have a hard time understanding how if teams like Ohio State can move up without playing and LSU can jump from 7th to 2nd with a loss to Arkansas and a slopfest over Tenn but Oklahoma beats the hell out of the number 1 team on a neutral field yet gets no consideration. Georgia fans should be livid at Vanderbilt as their choke job that allowed Tenn to come back and beat them kept the Bulldogs out of the National title game. Because if Georgia gets LSU with its injury troubles in Atlanta, you would be hard pressed to believe they would have lost.

I can see a scenario where there is a split title again. If OSU and LSU play a slopfest(which could happen)and LSU wins when OSU's punter fumbles or some other miracle and USC beats Illinois or Georgia by 40, Or Oklahoma beats whoever they play by 30 the poll voters may go with USC or Oklahoma though the BSC voters are required to vote for the winner of the BCS game. I would love to see the winner of the BCS finish third in the human polls. That is something the BCS deserves. The way this year played out if the season was a few weeks longer Notre Dame would be back in it.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The only thing more troubling than the corrupt college presidents refusing to create a playoff system is the calls against Pitt last night. I did not have a penny on the game and have no rooting interest for or against either team (though Wannstedt sucks, old Dolphins anomosity) But there were 2 holding calls against PITT that almost changed the outcome. Bad calls at anytime. But major homer calls when made 2 times in crucial situations.

I have said before that I am the biggest Hawaii fan on the mainland but despite the undefeated season they are not and should not be title game contenders based on this system (I think). I do believe that the schedule they play should not be held against them as much as the schools in the major conferences though. They have no control over the strength of their conference foes. They are not a huge school that gets a ton of bowl money from the WAC. They have a signifigant travel cost to go anywhere. No one with anything to lose will go to Hawaii to play them. Any road game for them is at least a cross country trip that no other team has to go through. But they do deserve a BCS spot. June Jones doesnt get much credit but he takes a bunch of Samoans and rejects and made them into consistent winners. His receivers are as good as anyone. They may be undersized but run perfect routes, catch the ball and run well after the catch. The defense is a little slow and undersized but rotates 8 lineman and plays aggressive. Brennan needs to add a little bulk but has an NFL arm and great field vision. He is better than the trash that the Bears or Dolphins trot out there every week.

I was wrong about Oklahoma. They were very impressive on both sides of the ball. I have a hard time understanding how if teams like Ohio State can move up without playing and LSU can jump from 7th to 2nd with a loss to Arkansas and a slopfest over Tenn but Oklahoma beats the hell out of the number 1 team on a neutral field yet gets no consideration. Georgia fans should be livid at Vanderbilt as their choke job that allowed Tenn to come back and beat them kept the Bulldogs out of the National title game. Because if Georgia gets LSU with its injury troubles in Atlanta, you would be hard pressed to believe they would have lost.

I can see a scenario where there is a split title again. If OSU and LSU play a slopfest(which could happen)and LSU wins when OSU's punter fumbles or some other miracle and USC beats Illinois or Georgia by 40, Or Oklahoma beats whoever they play by 30 the poll voters may go with USC or Oklahoma though the BSC voters are required to vote for the winner of the BCS game. I would love to see the winner of the BCS finish third in the human polls. That is something the BCS deserves. The way this year played out if the season was a few weeks longer Notre Dame would be back in it.

An overrated #1 team. Oklahoma lost to Colorado and Texas Tech... hardly world beaters.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

An overrated #1 team. Oklahoma lost to Colorado and Texas Tech... hardly world beaters.

There is no denying the losses and Mizzou was hardly a powerhouse number 1 but they did win in a convincing fashion and isn't that important? Can you reasonably say that it was the most impressive performance by a top 10 team the last few weeks? I was very skeptical of them (I saw the second half of the Colordao collapse) but they are arguably the best team out there right now, and their credentials are at least as good as Ohio State, LSU, Georgia, Va Tech and USC.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The only thing more troubling than the corrupt college presidents refusing to create a playoff system is the calls against Pitt last night. I did not have a penny on the game and have no rooting interest for or against either team (though Wannstedt sucks, old Dolphins anomosity) But there were 2 holding calls against PITT that almost changed the outcome. Bad calls at anytime. But major homer calls when made 2 times in crucial situations.

I have said before that I am the biggest Hawaii fan on the mainland but despite the undefeated season they are not and should not be title game contenders based on this system (I think). I do believe that the schedule they play should not be held against them as much as the schools in the major conferences though. They have no control over the strength of their conference foes. They are not a huge school that gets a ton of bowl money from the WAC. They have a signifigant travel cost to go anywhere. No one with anything to lose will go to Hawaii to play them. Any road game for them is at least a cross country trip that no other team has to go through. But they do deserve a BCS spot. June Jones doesnt get much credit but he takes a bunch of Samoans and rejects and made them into consistent winners. His receivers are as good as anyone. They may be undersized but run perfect routes, catch the ball and run well after the catch. The defense is a little slow and undersized but rotates 8 lineman and plays aggressive. Brennan needs to add a little bulk but has an NFL arm and great field vision. He is better than the trash that the Bears or Dolphins trot out there every week.

I was wrong about Oklahoma. They were very impressive on both sides of the ball. I have a hard time understanding how if teams like Ohio State can move up without playing and LSU can jump from 7th to 2nd with a loss to Arkansas and a slopfest over Tenn but Oklahoma beats the hell out of the number 1 team on a neutral field yet gets no consideration. Georgia fans should be livid at Vanderbilt as their choke job that allowed Tenn to come back and beat them kept the Bulldogs out of the National title game. Because if Georgia gets LSU with its injury troubles in Atlanta, you would be hard pressed to believe they would have lost.

I can see a scenario where there is a split title again. If OSU and LSU play a slopfest(which could happen)and LSU wins when OSU's punter fumbles or some other miracle and USC beats Illinois or Georgia by 40, Or Oklahoma beats whoever they play by 30 the poll voters may go with USC or Oklahoma though the BSC voters are required to vote for the winner of the BCS game. I would love to see the winner of the BCS finish third in the human polls. That is something the BCS deserves. The way this year played out if the season was a few weeks longer Notre Dame would be back in it.

Chuck..That is an incredible dissertation on the state of college football. But I am too hungover to even try and reply intelligently, so I will focus instead on the sheer entertainment value that Dave Wannestedt and his crutches brought to last night's game. See Dave hobble, see Dave thrashing helplessly with crutches, see Dave throw crutches to the ground, see Dave walking without crutches ( praaaaaise Jesus). DOCICU needs to comment on what prevailing as a 3 touchdown underdog can do for healing what ails you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Chuck..That is an incredible dissertation on the state of college football. But I am too hungover to even try and reply intelligently, so I will focus instead on the sheer entertainment value that Dave Wannestedt and his crutches brought to last night's game. See Dave hobble, see Dave thrashing helplessly with crutches, see Dave throw crutches to the ground, see Dave walking without crutches ( praaaaaise Jesus). DOCICU needs to comment on what prevailing as a 3 touchdown underdog can do for healing what ails you.

You still gotta love the porn star stache

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You still gotta love the porn star stache

He is a very handsome man

[King Glorious]

What I'd be happy with if they don't go to a playoff is the old bowl system with the old conference tie-ins, with a few changes:

Rose-Big 10 vs. Pac 10 (Ohio St. vs. USC)
Sugar-SEC (LSU vs. Georgia)
Orange-ACC (Va Tech vs. Hawaii)
Cotton-Big 12 (Oklahoma vs. Florida)
Fiesta-Big East (West Va vs. Missouri)