Bullish Luck injured

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I'm not arguing, I'm telling you that you're not understanding the kind of pressure put on those people from the top.

This was everyones horse. This was the pride of Hong Kong.They were pressured.

Stand by Cruz, good for you. Let's just hope Wong Wing Keung at least gives him a proper break.

Poor horse hasn't left HK in forever.

I understand very well, and i'm telling you that if the owners had actually wanted him retired when they "said" they did, they could have done so.

Neither Cruz or the HKJC could have stopped them, and if they had have tried they would have lost in court.

It's a no brainer.

If anyone is the blame here, it is the owners, they have been made to look good through their own media representation.

I will stand up for Cruz.

[gallant bloom]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Neither Cruz or the HKJC could have stopped them

u are wrong.

they did.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by gallant bloom

u are wrong.

they did.

They were the owners of the horse. Maybe they put pressure on them, but that is as far as they could have got.

Check the rules out for yourself.

[gallant bloom]

lol u want to
believe and
that is fine.

u know the
hkjc rules,
why are u
pretending
u don't
understand?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by gallant bloom

lol u want to
believe and
that is fine.

u know the
hkjc rules,
why are u
pretending
u don't
understand?

Oh jesus.

I know for a fact that the owners of these horses have final say in these sort of matters. Doesn't matter what f'in country the horse is racing in.

Sure, the HKJC might have put a bit of pressure on them, but that is as far as they can legally go.

If the owners had took them to court about this, the HKJC and Cruz wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Sorry, but it's a no brainer.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Oh jesus.

I know for a fact that the owners of these horses have final say in these sort of matters. Doesn't matter what f'in country the horse is racing in.

Sure, the HKJC might have put a bit of pressure on them, but that is as far as they can legally go.

If the owners had took them to court about this, the HKJC and Cruz wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Sorry, but it's a no brainer.

You know, I've tried to back off of this thread and only updated cause he had a swim and i was happy..... a little bit of normalcy for the old guy, you know? I love this horse. Breaks my heart knowing he's in that polluted stall instead of having a break somewhere nice like a lot of them get to do.....

Bullish Luck, for God sake. National treasure and he doesn't get a proper break. Sad.

This idiocy though..... you can't have it both ways.

You constantly make the HKJC out to be a bunch of villains, you and your "They're Mafia" posts.

WHICH IS IT?

You're saying what here, over and over.... they're suddenly not mafia but the good guys in all of this?

You seriously believe they did not put pressure on those people, on the De Silva's?

I NEVER pretend to know anything i don't.

You pm'd me once, saying something about studying HK racing in college? Tell me about your class... tell us all.

I'll tell you one thing though..... the friends I've made over there who answer questions and tell me stories, who know that for some weird reason this has become my passion, these beautiful old geldings who are snubbed in much of the international racing community?

They've told me differently and sorry but i will take their word over anybodys. period.

[my miss storm cat]

Oh, and they are NOT Mafia.

Tony Cruz was the winningest jock turned winningest trainer, wildly popular, very successful... damned right they wanted the bright star of HK to go out with a win and with that in mind, supported him.

After all, he was the king of HK... why wouldn't they?

Bad choices do not make them bad people, but Cruz..... just happened a few times too many and Silent Witness was NOT the first.

That's the reason for my anger.

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edit - For his fans..... he went swimming again today.