SEC games

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Just tell me why you believe this?

I'll use the Massey Ratings as an example cause they have past years available but the case holds up with any computer ratings out there, and even though computer rankings are often misunderstood they remain the only unbiased way to compare conferences.

This year they are the #1 conference

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf#conf

Hardly a fluke since last year they were also the #1 conference

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.ph...006&mid=6#conf

Now let's compare them to the year when Auburn went undefeated and I disagreed with anyone claiming that it was unfair for an SEC team to do undefeated and not make the National Championship game. And guess what, the SEC sucked that year, they were the #5 conference:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.ph...f&yr=2004#conf

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'll use the Massey Ratings as an example cause they have past years available but the case holds up with any computer ratings out there, and even though computer rankings are often misunderstood they remain the only unbiased way to compare conferences.

This year they are the #1 conference

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf#conf

Hardly a fluke since last year they were also the #1 conference

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.ph...006&mid=6#conf

Now let's compare them to the year when Auburn went undefeated and I disagreed with anyone claiming that it was unfair for an SEC team to do undefeated and not make the National Championship game. And guess what, the SEC sucked that year, they were the #5 conference:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.ph...f&yr=2004#conf

Those rankings are flawed in 2 ways. #1. is it favors the conferences with more teams because #2 It is basing it ratings on all non conference games including 1 AA teams. Therefore a conference with 12 teams will have 6 to 8 more easy wins than the 10 team conferences. And if you are such a big beliver in this system then why are you complaining about it's #1 and #2 ranked teams possibly meeting for the National Championship?

BTW-Missouri is not in the Big Ten

I will try once again.

What conference is better than the SEC????
Name one??? Then I will proceed to break it down.

Anybody on the board. This is the challenge. Name ONE conference better than the SEC???

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I will try once again.

What conference is better than the SEC????
Name one??? Then I will proceed to break it down.

Anybody on the board. This is the challenge. Name ONE conference better than the SEC???

I can't do it. I'm biased, though.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Those rankings are flawed in 2 ways. #1. is it favors the conferences with more teams because #2 It is basing it ratings on all non conference games including 1 AA teams. Therefore a conference with 12 teams will have 6 to 8 more easy wins than the 10 team conferences. And if you are such a big beliver in this system then why are you complaining about it's #1 and #2 ranked teams possibly meeting for the National Championship?

BTW-Missouri is not in the Big Ten

It is factoring in the weakness of the wins over 1AA teams as well to the strength of schedule so it evens out. The one way it is flawed is that to remain a component of the BCS they forced Massey to remove margin of victory from his ratings. I have a feeling his real ratings would not have those teams 1 vs 2. You can really see the difference in the Sagarin where the Rating is what he is required to publish by the BCS while the Pure Points Predictor is actually the best predictor of future games. Interestingly for Pure Points he has Oklahoma at #1 and Florida at #2 which I don't agree with as a national championship game but I could easily see being the finals of a 16 team tournament. Missouri is actually #9 in the Pure Points Predictor.

http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

I'm already assuming Missouri to lose to Oklahoma next week so they are irrelevant in the national championship picture.