HOF First Time Nominees...cough, cough

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

rice won't get in because he didn't get along with the press especially in boston. if smith gets in, gossage has to get in. i'm on the fence about big mac.

I think that Rice doesn't get in becuase his stats are just below what it takes as far as "magic" numbers .300 avg 400 HRs 1500 RBI's 3000 hits etc. Personally I believe he should be in. His numbers are eerily similar to Orlando Cepeda's.

Gossage should be in. He was the dominant relief pitcher of his time. He played a long time, played well in the post season. If Sutter is in then Gossage should be. I suppose Lee Smith has a case too but while he was very consistent he was never really dominant like Gossage, Sutter, and Eckersley. I think Raines should be looked at also. He was one of the top 5 players in the NL during the 80's into the 90's. His drug issues wont help as well as the fact he played in Montreal where no one saw him play.

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Rice's numbers

2089 games
1249 runs
2452 hits
382 HRs
1451 RBI's
670 BB's
1423 K's
.298 avg
.352 OBP
.502 SLG
1 MVP
2nd in ROY
8 time All Star


Cepeda
2124 games
1131 runs
2351 hits
379 HR's
1365 RBI's
588 BB
1169 K's
.297 avg
.350 OBP
.499 SLG
1 MVP
1 ROY
7 time All Star