Ark. vs LSU

horseofcourse · #1 11-24-2007, 11:04 AM

The Heisman Trophy should quite obviously be the quarterback of the winning team tonight. It isn't even debatable, or even contested. Reesing and Daniel are the only two I would consider for the Heisman. I'd rank Pat White 3rd. The only time that team lost was when he missed over half the game against S Florida. I'd rank Dixon high becuase of that too...a completely different team with him not playing. When Brennan missed games, the Hawaii offense was exactly the same. Graunke put up huge numbers on the road last week against Nevada.

right now I'd rank them...

1. (tie) Reesing/Daniel
3. Pat White
4. Dennis Dixon
5. McFadden
6. Tebow
7. Brennan
8. Crabtree
9. Woodson
10. Jimmy Clausen

The Bid · #2 11-24-2007, 11:37 AM

O-h-i-o

King Glorious · #3 11-24-2007, 02:22 PM

After this weekend:
Missouri wins
1-West Va
2-Missouri
3-Ohio St.
4-Ga Tech

Kansas wins
1-Kansas
2-West Va
3-Ohio St.
4-Ga Tech

Oklahoma beats either of them in the Big 12 title game and that opens the door for WV/OSU in the title game. There are two things that could come into play. There is a huge wildcard here.....Kentucky. Kentucky plays against Tennessee. If they Wildcats can beat Tennessee, that puts Georgia in the SEC title game. The Bulldogs are currently ranked 7th but three teams ahead of them will have lost (LSU, Missouri/Kansas, Arizona St) so there is a very good chance that they will be #4 (provided they beat Ga Tech today). If they are in the #4 position after this weekend, a win in the SEC title game over LSU could be enough to jump them up over idle Ohio St. If Tennessee beats Kentucky, they go to the SEC title game instead and that would virtually elimate Georgia's shot at the BCS title game.

The other question is how far down does LSU fall? What if they only fall to the fourth spot? That would still leave them very much in the title chase. If they only fall to fourth, they would still have a chance to move up to #3 when Oklahoma beats the Missouri/Kansas winner. If they are #3 and win the SEC title game, could that be enough to vault them over Ohio St? If that title game win is over #4 Georgia, it could be.

The Bid · #4 11-24-2007, 02:43 PM

There is noway LSU could end the season ahead of O-H-I-O with 2 losses

King Glorious · #5 11-24-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

There is noway LSU could end the season ahead of O-H-I-O with 2 losses

They would be behind OSU after this week but I wouldn't have any problem with them leaping over OSU if they were to beat Georgia in the SEC title game. That would be six wins over teams that were ranked at the time of them playing them, including wins over Va Tech, Florida and Georgia, three teams that are in the top 10 in the country now. OSU's resume comes nowhere close to matching that.

horseofcourse · #6 11-24-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

They would be behind OSU after this week but I wouldn't have any problem with them leaping over OSU if they were to beat Georgia in the SEC title game. That would be six wins over teams that were ranked at the time of them playing them, including wins over Va Tech, Florida and Georgia, three teams that are in the top 10 in the country now. OSU's resume comes nowhere close to matching that.

They also have losses to a 5 loss team and a 4 loss team at home. They will be playing Tennessee anyway it looks. This year's LSU team is one of the most overrated teams in college football history. They are fortunate they don't have 3 or 4 losses. I would put Oklahoma in the title game ahead of them if Oklahoma beats Kansas or Missouri next week considering Oklahoma's loss to Texas Tech was with Sam Bradford sitting on the bench. LSU is good and beat some good teams, but they were very fortunate to beat both Auburn and Florida. To me losing at home to a 4 loss Arkansas team disqualifies them regardless. Texas Tech is as good as Arkansas and Oklahoma played without their quarterback on the road that game. I would honestly put USC ahead of LSU at this point as well. I think they're better as well. And since they're not playing each other, I would also rank Georgia higher than LSU.

It's all a goat rope anyway. This is why you need a 16 team playoff, or at the very least an 8 team playoff so they can all play each other...because there are no definitive number 1 or 2 teams this year anyway and most years there aren't. What I would love to see is just what you're saying and actually have West Virginia lose, and have the Kansas/Missouri winner lose to Oklahoma and then we can all decide which TWO loss team belongs in the chamionship game to play a not really strong Ohip State team!! you'd have all of them scrapping...

LSU
Georgia
Oklahoma
Southern Cal
Virginia Tech or BC
Oregon

which one would it be??

then even Hawaii would have a legit claim as well.

Cannon Shell · #7 11-24-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

They also have losses to a 5 loss team and a 4 loss team at home. They will be playing Tennessee anyway it looks. This year's LSU team is one of the most overrated teams in college football history. They are fortunate they don't have 3 or 4 losses. I would put Oklahoma in the title game ahead of them if Oklahoma beats Kansas or Missouri next week considering Oklahoma's loss to Texas Tech was with Sam Bradford sitting on the bench. LSU is good and beat some good teams, but they were very fortunate to beat both Auburn and Florida. To me losing at home to a 4 loss Arkansas team disqualifies them regardless. Texas Tech is as good as Arkansas and Oklahoma played without their quarterback on the road that game. I would honestly put USC ahead of LSU at this point as well. I think they're better as well. And since they're not playing each other, I would also rank Georgia higher than LSU.

It's all a goat rope anyway. This is why you need a 16 team playoff, or at the very least an 8 team playoff so they can all play each other...because there are no definitive number 1 or 2 teams this year anyway and most years there aren't. What I would love to see is just what you're saying and actually have West Virginia lose, and have the Kansas/Missouri winner lose to Oklahoma and then we can all decide which TWO loss team belongs in the chamionship game to play a not really strong Ohip State team!! you'd have all of them scrapping...

LSU
Georgia
Oklahoma
Southern Cal
Virginia Tech or BC
Oregon

which one would it be??

then even Hawaii would have a legit claim as well.

If there were ever a season where a playoff were needed it is this year. Oklahoma is no great shakes either. After watching the mighty Baylor move the ball up and down the field against them and blowing a 17 point second half lead to Colorado does not impress.

On a turf field Hawaii scores a ton of points on LSU, Oklahoma, Kansas, Mizzou, WV, Ohio St... They may not be big enough on the d line or deep enough to win consistently against those teams but they would put up some #'s on them.