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11-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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11-21-2007, 09:55 PM
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lets not forget that giving a horse a second career is what keeps them from being dinner....or breaking down on the track because they were forced back into a job they were no longer capable of doing after injury.
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11-21-2007, 10:24 PM
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After reading through this thread I still don't know what a dressage horse is.At first I thought it was some version of a chinese thanksgiving.Where do they prance around? On the track near the starting gate during the races?
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11-22-2007, 03:28 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dressage U.S. DRESSAGE FED: http://www.usdf.org/Menu/index.asp DRESSAGE TODAY: http://www.equisearch.com/dressagetoday/ GERMAN MASTERS WINNER VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggeaZ...eature=related
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11-22-2007, 03:31 AM
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For some reason when I saw this thread I thought to myself....they should let War Emblem try this....
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11-22-2007, 03:38 AM
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I don't think a horse should ever be forced to wear a dress.
Regardless of it's age.
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11-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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I'm not sure what turning him into a dressage horse has to do with cruelty of man?? Man, what a world it would be if that were the cruelest thing man did...make horses do dressage!!!!
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11-22-2007, 10:36 AM
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Dressage is a very skilled riding style that originated with cavalry officers and mounted troops honing their riding between battles. Very tough to do correctly and the rider and horse must be in complete harmony. When done correctly, it's amazing to see.
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11-22-2007, 11:19 AM
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I take it they don't do three day events in America?
Cross country, showumping and Dressage? I'm not a fan on dressage and because i don't know a great deal about i never really likely to get into it. However, after going to an Equine college, i know several people that have their own dressage horses and ponies and i know how hard they have to work to do it. Having a thoroughbred to do dressage isn't exactly the easiest thing, although some t-breds take to it really well. It is a very difficult pursuit for both horse and rider, but not in a physical way, unlike cross country and showjumping. I know i certainly couldn't do it. How some of these riders remember all of the things they have to do in a dressage ring is beyond me. Ashkal Way has had many problems through his racing career, and if it really was risky to keep racing him, i'd much prefer him to become a dressage horse than being stuck in a paddock somewhere being ridden once or twice a week for the rest of his life. I hope he goes an wins some good shows for his new(ish) owner.
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11-22-2007, 01:27 PM
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Dressage and three day eventing do happen here in the US, but it's not as popular as in Europe.
My uncle, who was a mounted police officer for many years, and did some stunts at the annual Farm Show in PA (he would jump two horses over a car, no kidding) always said dressage was where the real riding was. Look at it this way, MMSC- clearly they think Ashkal Way is naturally a good mover, and very, very smart, or they wouldn't bother. And if you love him, dressage horses have much longer careers than racers, so if he turns out to be good at it, you'll get several years to enjoy watching him in his second career. It'll probably help keep him limber and healthy into old age, just like yoga and things like that do for people. And here's my favorite youtube dressage video- and I'm not even a particular fan of the sport- I love how, at the end, they comment the horse is "only nine!" What a difference from us calling Evening Attire an old man. We've posted it here before, but it's worth a rewatch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQgT...eature=related My favorite part of the video Steve posted was watching the horse's ears flick back and forth during the routine- not to anthropomorphize, but the horse seemed to be having as good a time as the rider!
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11-22-2007, 01:45 PM
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It's an interesting topic to bring up- second careers for racehorses. I think we forget how very young they are when they're retired, and also that they probably have more of an inner life than we really give them credit for. I work at a zoo (as most of you know) and stimulating the animals' minds is one of the major concerns at good zoos- in the wild, an animal is usually barely two steps away from starvation, so there's no time to be bored. You can't be bored if you don't have free time, and retired horses, I think, can be given too much free time, depending on the horse.
I imagine the motivation for Tagg & Co. making Funny Cide a track pony was partly that they love him and want to keep him around, but it's probably also good for him- he has something to do every day and had to learn some new skills to do it. I think those Japanese stud farms that see that most of the stallions are ridden every day are really smart to do it- I know they do it to keep the stallions more docile, but it's probably good for the stallions' minds, too- gives them something to do. My uncle's best mount (best as in easiest) when he was a cop was a former racehorse, named Seven (his star was in the shape of the number 7) and the horse could do just about anything. Long memory, too- when Seven was in his 20's, the police did a parade or something at Penn National and my uncle said the second they stepped out on the track, Seven's nostrils flared and his eyes got big and it was all my uncle could do to keep him reined in while they were on the track. Tee hee.
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11-22-2007, 07:59 PM
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11-23-2007, 04:26 AM
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Back when I was more limber, I took riding lessons with the UKy riding program on their donated horses, several of which were TBs. Top Gamble (1966) and Swing Papa (1960) were two of them. We did elementary dressage and jumping, so I have just enough knowledge to appreciate what a difficult thing higher level dressage is.
Dressage means 'training' and that's what it does - trains the horse to use its body in its most athletic expression. They learn how to relax, and bend, and control their gaits and in the process develop balance and muscle tone. And they learn to listen to their riders, something a few racehorses could benefit from knowing.
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