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Old 11-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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I thought Arroyo's ride in the 8th was insane as well. Take a look again at how he rode the 10 horse. That horse actually ran pretty well all things considered.
That's the JOHNNY V patented turf ride. It's catching on with all the jocks --even Edgar has been practicing it lately. Arroyo gave it his own added twist however: in addition to taking both turns wide and going needlessly wide WITHOUT COVER on the backstretch, he also idiotically rushed the horse on the backstretch --guess the race was to the 2nd turn for him.

If any of the stewards were the least bit competent, they'd fine any jock that goes needlessly wide without cover on the backstretch on the turf. Those types of rides should be UNacceptable at this level. Of course, we'd be hardpressed to find even a handful of jocks/jock agents that understand why this is not a favorable trip.

As for irony: Johnny V actually gave Trouble Maker a decent ride --and still got beat by an inside trip.

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:24 PM
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what is "cover"? Maybe a novice question, but I heard someone saying a horse needed "cover" yesterday (I think they were referring to Storm Military) and now you're talking about it and I am lost.

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:45 PM
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what is "cover"? Maybe a novice question, but I heard someone saying a horse needed "cover" yesterday (I think they were referring to Storm Military) and now you're talking about it and I am lost.

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Cover is having a horse in front of you.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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On that topic. Why is it that cover seems so much more important in Harness racing?

Is it a matter of added wind resistance with sulky?
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:30 PM
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I think it also has to do with the sulky and the driver. If you watch those races, the horses mouths are on top of the helmets of the driver in front of them. But I have never heard the word cover used reguarding T-Breds.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:19 AM
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I think it also has to do with the sulky and the driver. If you watch those races, the horses mouths are on top of the helmets of the driver in front of them. But I have never heard the word cover used reguarding T-Breds.
European TB racing uses "covered up" as terminology more often then we do here, but it's the same as "in amongst" or "down in", etc..

The principle in terms of running style is to keep your turf horses in amongst traffic to save run given that the horse is taught to explode once he sees daylight.

Of course some prefer to run covered up.. Others demand running room and to be outside other horses. As an example, Velasquez told Tagg after getting off Nobiz post-BC Mile, that the colt was uncomfortable down inside and he couldn't get run until he got him in the clear on the outside entering the backstretch..
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