Tiger Woods

Seattleallstar · #1 07-24-2006, 11:25 AM

Tiger Woods its twice the golfer Jack Nickalus ever was

gales0678 · #2 07-24-2006, 11:45 AM

When Tiger wins 36 majors then I will say he is twice the golfer as Jack

Let him first catch Jack's 18 and then say what you want.

I know one thing Tiger and Jack are both great, but , facts are facts

Tiger has won ALL 11 majors from the front end , he has never won a major coming from the middle of the pack or just near the lead heading into the final round. Winning in front is great to do, Jack has won from the front and lost.

Here is why Jack has to be considered the best of ALL Time for now - He lost majors to multiple hall of famers - if there was no palmer, trevino or watson - Jack's totals go way up - he was runner up 6 or 7 times to these hall of famers. The only runner up that Tiger has been too is Rich Beem i believe.

Wouldn't it be great if Tiger could shoot a 65 one the last day of a major to pass some great players like Jack did in the 86 masters? So far he has been unable to do that. He has been in positions before and just not been able to win from behind - let's see what happens the rest of the way.

Seattleallstar · #3 07-24-2006, 11:49 AM

Tiger Woods is so great that he doesnt need to win from behind, he is just that great.

gales0678 · #4 07-24-2006, 11:52 AM

where was he last month at the us open????

don't tell me it was becuase of the layoff - he has won regular pga tour events in the past off of layoffs of 4 weeks

i'll tell you where he was - he was in the rough - cause he couldn't hit his driver straight - put him on a tough tree lined tight us open course and he does not dominate - facts are facts Seattle look at the record

again only 1 major on a par 70 course - par 5's are where he has the big advantage

Seattleallstar · #5 07-24-2006, 11:54 AM

I dont like to look at facts and objective thinking. I like to think and act using emotions

Gander · #6 07-24-2006, 01:03 PM

Exactly why does Tiger have to win 36 majors to be considered the best of all time? Jack only won 18 and Tiger is already way ahead of Jack's pace to put that record to rest. Tiger is in way better physical shape than Jack ever was and he already expressed the desire to play this game a very long time which means Jack's record will be beaten. Just a question of when.

Tiger will win a major (more than one) coming from behind. Its just a matter of time. Its not really his fault that he puts himself in such good position in majors so often. And I disagree that this really proves all that much to begin with. A win is a win.

this course couldn't have played more than 6,500 hundread yards - the fairways were rocks. He realized that he could hit par 5's with an iron off the tee and another iron into the greens

So why didnt the other guys take advantage of this? Where was Phil? At the hamburger stand?

So Tiger won this only because the course was playing so short and the fact he had the lead after 54 holes...again. And also because all his rivals arent as good as Jack's rivals were. Uh huh. Yup. Sure.

Gander · #7 07-24-2006, 01:09 PM

where was he last month at the us open????

How about the fact that it was his first tournament back after losing his Dad? He hardly even picked up a club in May after he lost his greatest influence and best friend. Geez, how about you get a clue and grow a heart.

whorstman · #8 07-24-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

When Tiger wins 36 majors then I will say he is twice the golfer as Jack

Let him first catch Jack's 18 and then say what you want.

I know one thing Tiger and Jack are both great, but , facts are facts

Tiger has won ALL 11 majors from the front end , he has never won a major coming from the middle of the pack or just near the lead heading into the final round. Winning in front is great to do, Jack has won from the front and lost.

Here is why Jack has to be considered the best of ALL Time for now - He lost majors to multiple hall of famers - if there was no palmer, trevino or watson - Jack's totals go way up - he was runner up 6 or 7 times to these hall of famers. The only runner up that Tiger has been too is Rich Beem i believe.

Wouldn't it be great if Tiger could shoot a 65 one the last day of a major to pass some great players like Jack did in the 86 masters? So far he has been unable to do that. He has been in positions before and just not been able to win from behind - let's see what happens the rest of the way.

Well, 11 in about 10 years, I would say he's in his "prime" now, so we'll give him another 15 in the next 10, and I say he finishes w/ at least 27 total. So I say he at least beats Jack by 9, so we'll say he's a golfer and a half better. BTW, I really think he will have the most in each category too. If you noticed the stats on the winners, a lot of those guys just won 1 or 2 or dominated one of them. Jack right now is the best all time, but when it's said and done, Tiger will be the greatest EVER. He is not even halfway through his career! He's friggin 30! How many do you think he'll win in the next 5 years? There are 20 majors in that time. Very concievable that he catches Jack before his 35th B-day. Pretty crazy I think. He is Scary good. At least you could say he has not disapointed his lofty expectations since busting on the scene in 97 masters.

Seattleallstar · #9 07-24-2006, 04:21 PM

Tiger could beat Jack using a broomstick with a piece of lead attached at the bottom

somerfrost · #10 07-24-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Tiger could beat Jack using a broomstick with a piece of lead attached at the bottom

Seattle, one such post might have been considered mildly humorous...you've long since made yourself a bore!

whorstman · #11 07-24-2006, 04:33 PM

Seriously, do you guys remember the Tiger and friends where they took one club out of his bag every hole or something like that. He was paring the par 5s w/ his 5-iron! I think they took his putter too.

somerfrost · #12 07-24-2006, 04:36 PM

Tiger is simply amazing...I was a huge fan of Jack's as well. I think the time to compare the two will be when Tiger retires...then we'll see. Jack played against some legends but I think the tour is much deeper today and who knows which current players will join Tiger and Jack on the list of all-time greats. One thing that can't be doubted is that both were/are fine gentlemen and the game is so much the better for them both! Tiger has opened doors for inner city youth and minorities and broken down some of the last bastions of racism in the sport...golf may not excite like other pro sports but it remains the truest to the essence of sport!

SCUDSBROTHER · #13 07-24-2006, 05:33 PM

Well,I don't know why people think it is so important to come from behind on Sunday to win a major.People are under the illusion that doing that is an incredible accomplishment.I do not believe it is as tough to do as holding a lead for 2,or 3 rounds(and dealing with the huge pressure that comes with that.)Would I like to see Tiger come from behind on Sunday to win a major? Yes,but I am not expecting it to happen soon.There is a very good reason for that.This is the most honest athlete I have ever seen.On Thursday,You get everything he has to show you.He is not holding cards.If he can't do it on Thursday,then he probably doesn't have it,but will try as hard as he can to win(anyways.)This is why he gets so many top 5 finishes to go along with his wins.Lets look at something here.Look at this B.C. Open Golf Tournament yesterday.Rollins shoots a 64 on Sunday to come from behind(as the leaders choked)and win it.Now,I guess (from what I read from Tiger's Critics) many think Rollins had a tremendous accomplishment.It is a nice win,but make no mistake about it,he had to deal with about 1% of the pressure that somebody leading a golf tournament has to deal with.I,d like to see Tiger win a big one from behind(it would be far more interesting than watching him put the field to sleep while leading,)but I do not feel it would be as big an accomplishment as when he deals with the pressure of leading a major.After betting golf for a # of years,I think the ability to deal with the pressure( that comes with holding the lead ) is the thing many lack(not a good golf game.)If it was about the best golf game somebody has,you would see a lot different results in these majors.Tiger's golf game is not superior to all that many of these guys,but mentally he just distances them.

Crown@club · #14 07-24-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Tiger Woods its twice the golfer Jack Nickalus ever was

How I am not surprised.

And you want $40,000 a year with hardly any work experience