Another NY trainer caught....

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Gary fought this for the 4+ years given that the investigator changed testimony at least three times about what he saw or thought he saw and what stall Barone, the vet and groom were in at the time. Gary was on vacation.

unless a horse has colic or is being oiled for shipping (both of which would be easy to produce a vet report on to clear one's name) then there is NO reason to tube a horse...and it isn't easy for a person (even a layman) to misinterpret....confusion about which stall or even which horse doesn't mean he didn't see what he says he saw...and I like I said if they were treating a sick horse or preparing a horse to ship it is easily cleared up...the fact that they can't speaks volumes.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

unless a horse has colic or is being oiled for shipping (both of which would be easy to produce a vet report on to clear one's name) then there is NO reason to tube a horse...and it isn't easy for a person (even a layman) to misinterpret....confusion about which stall or even which horse doesn't mean he didn't see what he says he saw...and I like I said if they were treating a sick horse or preparing a horse to ship it is easily cleared up...the fact that they can't speaks volumes.

Not that it applies in this case but not that long ago horses were tubed for worming. We still tube really dehydrated horses with electrolytes in the summer. While giving a milkshake is against the rules it does not in any way harm the horse. That is a fallacy.

Interesting fact- Dr. Mcguire worked as a examining (state/NYRA) vet for a time.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not that it applies in this case but not that long ago horses were tubed for worming. We still tube really dehydrated horses with electrolytes in the summer. While giving a milkshake is against the rules it does not in any way harm the horse. That is a fallacy.

Interesting fact- Dr. Mcguire worked as a examining (state/NYRA) vet for a time.

but like you said horses haven't been tubed for worming in years...

and if they were giving electrolytes they could have easily had that documented as well...

and I never said it harmed the horse....but it harms the betting public.