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Old 11-11-2007, 08:55 PM
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I'm not a Gomez fan and I had no interest in the race but you guys need to re-watch the head on. . . The horse Gomez collided with was running very erratically in the stretch and took a step outside right before GG swung wide, then came back inside and the two met in the middle. . . I wouldn't really put the blame on either rider. . . It was a proper no-call because Gomez's horse was much the best. . . Breakdowns are an unfortunate part of the game and nobody likes to see them but to blame Gomez for that is unreasonable. . .
the thing is it wasn't a breakdown, the horse clipped heels and went down only because of the quick way that Gomez came over. to my eye it was his agressive riding that triggered it. if you interfere with others i don't think it's supposed to matter one bit if the horse is much the best. obviously the stewards saw it differently but I think scuds point is to raise the question whether they would have made the same call if it wasn't Gomez. Lets say it was Kyla Stra and it was Gomez who went down. would they have still let the finish order stand? I think its highly unlikely. it does seem to matter who the characters are.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:12 PM
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the thing is it wasn't a breakdown, the horse clipped heels and went down only because of the quick way that Gomez came over. to my eye it was his agressive riding that triggered it. if you interfere with others i don't think it's supposed to matter one bit if the horse is much the best. obviously the stewards saw it differently but I think scuds point is to raise the question whether they would have made the same call if it wasn't Gomez. Lets say it was Kyla Stra and it was Gomez who went down. would they have still let the finish order stand? I think its highly unlikely. it does seem to matter who the characters are.
Maybe I'm not as keen to the dynamics of the CA jockey colony as some here, but I think it's very difficult and highly speculative to say that without some proof or examples of similar situations that resulted in different rulings by the stewards. If Jara was on the winner and Gomez was on the horse that went down and the ruling went for Gomez, I would say that it was an over-call in that case rather than an under-call in the actual situation we're discussing. . .
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:36 PM
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Not to put you on the spot, but if you have any insight into this it would be greatly appreciated. . .
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:47 PM
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I guess you can look at 2 ways. Because there was a spill, it turned out to be a reckless move. If there was no spill, it would have just been called a good agresive ride by Go-Go who got the best horse through and brought him home. I guess that there is a very fine line betwen agressive and reckless. My beef is more with the stewards. How can the justify leaving a horse/jockey up that contributed to a two horse spill?
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