Ed Allred

Yeah if he thinks they can renovate that place for $30 million then he's insane.

[Linny]

Allred is the husband of the prominent (ubiquitous?) attorney Gloria Allred and appears interested in supporting SoCal TB's as he has QH's.

[ALostTexan]

My only thought is how that would affect the Quarters. If they go to a long meet at Los Al for the Thoroughbreds, then they will have to put in a synthetic, and I cannot see the Quarters running on any kind of synthetic.

Seems like $25-30 Million is alot of money to invest in a meet that won't run longer than a fair meet...

[Honu]

Originally Posted by ALostTexan

My only thought is how that would affect the Quarters. If they go to a long meet at Los Al for the Thoroughbreds, then they will have to put in a synthetic, and I cannot see the Quarters running on any kind of synthetic.

Seems like $25-30 Million is alot of money to invest in a meet that won't run longer than a fair meet...

They could send the Quarters over to run at Pamona while the TB's are at Los Al. Orange County will be a great place for a true TB meet , so close to everything , Disney , Knotts and the beach is just a few miles away and its a helluva alot nicer neighborhood than Hollywood.

[The Bid]

The only way EA wont need investors is if he signs up for PP's football service

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Honu

They could send the Quarters over to run at Pamona while the TB's are at Los Al. Orange County will be a great place for a true TB meet , so close to everything , Disney , Knotts and the beach is just a few miles away and its a helluva alot nicer neighborhood than Hollywood.

hollypark died the day churchill bought them. they never invested in the facility the way magna did at santa anita.

it's not just the neighborhood. holly has a great location 15 minutes from the airport and 30 minutes from the westside.

it wasn't always the hole it is now. that took years of bad management.

[theiman]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Yeah if he thinks they can renovate that place for $30 million then he's insane.

Agree.

An artifical surface will be needed and that will cost at least $10M, and that is based on replacing the surfaces at SA/HP/DM over an existing track. At Los Al they have to build a new mile track, build a turf, and then a Qtr track.

Dont know if anyone has ever been there, I have plenty of times, as I live in OC. It needs alot of work on the stands. Actually it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. It certainly isnt up to the standards of a Major League circuit track.

Then they still need barn work.

[Metal Man]

With the limited on track attendence you only need th build the new tracks and barns. Don't need much for parking and grandstands.

"if you build it they will come". We all know Hollywood park will be sold in the near future.

[theiman]

Originally Posted by Metal Man

With the limited on track attendence you only need th build the new tracks and barns. Don't need much for parking and grandstands.

"if you build it they will come". We all know Hollywood park will be sold in the near future.

I actualy agree with that statement, however, tell that to all the people who complained about the change done at Gulfstream.

[Metal Man]

Originally Posted by theiman

I actualy agree with that statement, however, tell that to all the people who complained about the change done at Gulfstream.

This is why it would be easy for Fairplex to rip dowm some old buildings and put in a mile track with a grass coarse and get hollywoods dates when they close that track. The same is true for Los Al.

[Honu]

I dont see Fairplex tearing down any convention halls to make a new track or barn area . They make alot of money with those halls during the off meet and the parking lot behind the barn area fills up for the car races at the track next door , at the same time I dont know where Los Al is going to find the space to build a mile oval , a bigger barn area and a grandstand since they sold the land behind the 4 1/2 chute to the church next door and the land that was the golf course is supposidly zoned "green " only .
It will be interesting to see how this all works out , but if they really wanna make a go of it Los Al is the place , there is already so much buisness in that area because of the Theme Parks that if they conducted half night racing and half day racing I could really see people showing up.
Orange County would be my pick any day of the week , in the summer its not too hot and the nights arent to cool in the winter .

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Honu

I dont see Fairplex tearing down any convention halls to make a new track or barn area . They make alot of money with those halls during the off meet and the parking lot behind the barn area fills up for the car races at the track next door , at the same time I dont know where Los Al is going to find the space to build a mile oval , a bigger barn area and a grandstand since they sold the land behind the 4 1/2 chute to the church next door and the land that was the golf course is supposidly zoned "green " only .
It will be interesting to see how this all works out , but if they really wanna make a go of it Los Al is the place , there is already so much buisness in that area because of the Theme Parks that if they conducted half night racing and half day racing I could really see people showing up.
Orange County would be my pick any day of the week , in the summer its not too hot and the nights arent to cool in the winter .

See....this is the reason I keep you around...