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Old 11-08-2007, 03:50 PM
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How can anyone be a fan of a horse like Curlin who runs 4 times a year, and is questionable to run as a 4 year old.
Curlin ran 9 times..winning 6 - 1 - 2 and approx 5.5 million in earnings

He had a grueling campaign by today's standards
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:53 PM
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Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:26 PM
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Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.
Tjere should never, i repeat never a beyer number assigned again for turf races!
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:37 PM
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Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.
And he just lost by about a length to one of the very best turf milers in the world in Excellent Art. There was nothing at all to be ashamed about with his Mile effort and this is coming from a horse that won a grade one on the dirt earlier this year.

Is he a great horse? Not at all. But by today's standards, he's a very good one. He has to go into next year as one of the top five candidates for HOY doesn't he?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:44 PM
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I agree that he ran very well in the BC and probably would have won it more in 20 runnings than the winner would have.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:14 PM
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I agree that he ran very well in the BC and probably would have won it more in 20 runnings than the winner would have.
I think this is probably true.
And I had the winner.
Still think Nobiz does some
funky things. Its cool he has
shown talent on both surfaces.

He just has some weird habits
I have seen that make him a bit
unpredictable. I would not call him
adaptable once a race is underway.
No doubt he is talented and more
importantly fun to watch.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:35 AM
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The main point of the original poster is that NoBiz and his connections should be admired for running him 10 times this year, and I agree wholeheartedly with that.

Besides, I've got money on Sniper's over.

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Old 11-09-2007, 08:29 AM
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The main point of the original poster is that NoBiz and his connections should be admired for running him 10 times this year, and I agree wholeheartedly with that.

Besides, I've got money on Sniper's over.

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Me too.

GO NOBIZ!
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