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Old 11-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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i took my kids to a pediatrician once, long ago....she said viral, here's a prescrip for antibiotics. the paper went in the trash along with her phone #. docs like her a part of the problem, another part are those who take part of their meds, feel better, rest goes on the shelf...dummies.
Antibiotics are prescribed for viral infections so the body can fight off other bacterial infections while the body is weakened from fighting the viral infection.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:44 PM
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Antibiotics are prescribed for viral infections so the body can fight off other bacterial infections while the body is weakened from fighting the viral infection.
that's the first time i've ever heard that. and i don't think it's true.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:47 PM
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that's the first time i've ever heard that. and i don't think it's true.


http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/fl...tibiotics-work


http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/p...ns-antibiotics
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:57 PM
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Not one of those links contradicts what I said.

And I come from a family of doctors.

Yes, overuse of antibiotics can have negative results, such as resistance to the drug. But taking antibiotics while fighting a viral infection is common.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Not one of those links contradicts what I said.

And I come from a family of doctors.

Yes, overuse of antibiotics can have negative results, such as resistance to the drug. But taking antibiotics while fighting a viral infection is common.
thankfully less common, as no one should ever take antibiotics unless they have a bacterial infection to fight.

overuse, overprescription, and improper use, is what causes these superbugs.

of course there are docs who will write a scrip to allow a nervous mother to feel she's doing something. he's doing her and her kid no favors.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:08 PM
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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thankfully less common, as no one should ever take antibiotics unless they have a bacterial infection to fight.

overuse, overprescription, and improper use, is what causes these superbugs.

of course there are docs who will write a scrip to allow a nervous mother to feel she's doing something. he's doing her and her kid no favors.
I know federal air marshals who take antibiotics everyday. They switch it up, and take one drug one week, and another drug the next so they don't develop a resistance to any one drug.

Again, no one is saying that antibiotics will help fight a virus, so I don't know why you keep posting links like that. But when your body is run down from fighting a virus, your immune system is weakened. Thus, you are vulnerable to bacterial infections that you otherwise would not be vulnerable to. This is why antibiotics are prescribed.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:17 PM
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I know federal air marshals who take antibiotics everyday. They switch it up, and take one drug one week, and another drug the next so they don't develop a resistance to any one drug.

Again, no one is saying that antibiotics will help fight a virus, so I don't know why you keep posting links like that. But when your body is run down from fighting a virus, your immune system is weakened. Thus, you are vulnerable to bacterial infections that you otherwise would not be vulnerable to. This is why antibiotics are prescribed.

i have never, after raising three kids, heard bs like this in my life. altho we both know that they do nothing for viruses, everything in those links indicated that you don't take an antibiotic unless absolutely 100% necessary, for a diagnosed bacterial infection. not for a weak immune system, for a cold, etc. your mistaken thinking is one reason why there are superbugs out there.

you will not convince me otherwise, regardless of air marshal/doctor ties.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:37 PM
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I know federal air marshals who take antibiotics everyday. They switch it up, and take one drug one week, and another drug the next so they don't develop a resistance to any one drug.

Again, no one is saying that antibiotics will help fight a virus, so I don't know why you keep posting links like that. But when your body is run down from fighting a virus, your immune system is weakened. Thus, you are vulnerable to bacterial infections that you otherwise would not be vulnerable to. This is why antibiotics are prescribed.


They are scrambling to replace ineffective antibiotics with probiotics like spirulina that strengthen immune systems and prevent disease.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:21 PM
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And I come from a family of doctors.
There's always another rabbit in the hat.
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that's the first time i've ever heard that. and i don't think it's true.
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Antibiotics are prescribed for viral infections so the body can fight off other bacterial infections while the body is weakened from fighting the viral infection.
Again, not in my medical practice are antibiotics prescribed for viral illnesses.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:46 PM
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Again, not in my medical practice are antibiotics prescribed for viral illnesses.
Justin said, "Antibiotics are prescribed for viral infections so the body can fight off other bacterial infections while the body is weakened from fighting the viral infection. Yes, overuse of antibiotics can have negative results, such as resistance to the drug. But taking antibiotics while fighting a viral infection is common."

He's right (although I would amend that to say, not common, but essential in those cases where antibiotics are needed to prevent predictable and anticipated secondary bacterial infection; not because the body is "weakened").

'Zig said, Antibiotics don't kill viruses, they kill bacteria. And that is absolutely true. Few kids with viral upper respiratory infection should get an antibiotic. Quite a few 80-year-old chronic bronchitis patients with influenza should.

You are both right.
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