Guidry

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

[cakes44]

BBB is back baby! How many thousands did you win this weekend my man?

I'm not sure if some people on this board realize how lucky they are to be graced by the presence of your expertise(abeit in your own mind with imaginary redboards and tales of $30 pick 6s), but I definitely don't take it for granted.

[notyep59]

the next time the wife asks whats taking so long in there, I will have to answer, "I'm tatooing the rogue!" do people really talk this way??

[GPK]

Originally Posted by notyep59

the next time the wife asks whats taking so long in there, I will have to answer, "I'm tatooing the rogue!" do people really talk this way??

I tried telling your wife all along thats what you were doing.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by GPK

I tried telling your wife all along thats what you were doing.

HA!! i've used every other term there is for it, so I'm sure she believed you.....whats been going on kev?? oh yeah....gfy

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by notyep59

the next time the wife asks whats taking so long in there, I will have to answer, "I'm tatooing the rogue!" do people really talk this way??

someone reading too much dickens??

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

Guidry also started a 15 year drug binge in the 80's that kept him from being a very good rider.

He was far better when he was 20 than he has been for years. You left that part out.

Cakes: I do not play pick sixes. I posted that particular pick four at letitride.com USA forum under the selections thread. The case I made for Five Star Dawn was quite strong.

Stud: Many many riders have had substance abuse issues... not many have won over 5,000 races. Thanks for plugging me, although I wish you would put 2006 in there somewhere. Years like that are hard to duplicate. BBB

[PSH]

I can confirm that Bellsbendboy did in fact have the Pick 4 posted and did make a strong case for the single in the nightcap on Sunday at CD....
That is a fact and can not be disputed.

As far as the other stuff..... everyone i guess is entitled to an opinion.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by PSH

I can confirm that Bellsbendboy did in fact have the Pick 4 posted and did make a strong case for the single in the nightcap on Sunday at CD....
That is a fact and can not be disputed.

As far as the other stuff..... everyone i guess is entitled to an opinion.

Well, if he got it for $2, it paid off a whopping $387. That still leaves him "several thousand" dollars left to make by the end of the month. Nobody disputes that he can hit a pick-4 from time to time. People tend to dispute the fact that a two-or-three-times-a-week pick-4 player, at $36 per ticket "regularly" brings home several thousands of dollars each month.

Even a tool in a multi-colored construction paper house can catch a break every now and then. $387 down, several thousand to go.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by PSH

I can confirm that Bellsbendboy did in fact have the Pick 4 posted and did make a strong case for the single in the nightcap on Sunday at CD....
That is a fact and can not be disputed.

As far as the other stuff..... everyone i guess is entitled to an opinion.

yeah I saw it as well and can confirm that he did single that horse and as a result had a winning pick4 play that paid out something like $195 for $1. after reading all the hoopla about his pick4 prowess, I have been following his plays and frankly this is the first winning ticket i've seen.

"great success"

[ArlJim78]

I can't resist to review this again,

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB

if you assume that the 11 signers were the only winners, it would imply that on $36 plays he hits 22% of them and that they averaged a payout of $2,909 for $1, in order to yield $32,000.

If the story is that there were other smaller tickets that hit for less than $600 and therefore not signers, then you have to accept that the hit rate is even higher than 22%.

either way its laughable on its face.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Cakes: I do not play pick sixes. I posted that particular pick four at letitride.com USA forum under the selections thread. The case I made for Five Star Dawn was quite strong.

Stud: Many many riders have had substance abuse issues... not many have won over 5,000 races. Thanks for plugging me, although I wish you would put 2006 in there somewhere. Years like that are hard to duplicate. BBB

Guidry was so coked up in the 80's and early 90's he used to disappear for days at a time. He was never better than average and, in many stretches, so awful and unreliable he couldn't get rides from good stables.

How's that "fixed" race investigation going?

And sorry, it wasn't a plug.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

How's that "fixed" race investigation going?

Going? I believe he opened and closed it in a single post, peppered with impeccable and impenetrable logic.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Guidry was so coked up in the 80's and early 90's he used to disappear for days at a time. He was never better than average and, in many stretches, so awful and unreliable he couldn't get rides from good stables.

How's that "fixed" race investigation going?

And sorry, it wasn't a plug.

true he did have severe drug probs in the past but hes had a nice career and proven himself in every part of the country where hes ridden

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cardus

He is a fine rider, and everytime that I see his name I think of Ron Guidry, the great Yankee pitcher. In fact, don't both Mark and Ron have thin black mustaches?

man could he bring it.

1978 record:
25W-3L, 1.74 era, 9 shutouts including one where he struck out 18 Angels.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Cardus

He is a fine rider, and everytime that I see his name I think of Ron Guidry, the great Yankee pitcher. In fact, don't both Mark and Ron have thin black mustaches?

Shaved the moustache, grew it back again, and shaved it. At least last time I saw him. Super nice guy and a good rider.

Eric

[JJP]

I heard somewhere that they are distant relatives.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

the same can be said about Sylvester Carmouche Jr and you.