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WHIIIIRRRRRRRRRRR |
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![]() http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/...fSGuaI4XELewgF
That country is something else,man. "Shortly after the soldiers' return to Turkey, local media here said that they were being interrogated by military authorities. They are being held in a military prison in the eastern province of Van, and it was not immediately clear when they would appear in court again." |
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![]() Look at the 1st 2 stanzas of their national anthem.You will see the same problem we had with the 2 beasts that tried to conquer the World during WW2.They don't use the word countrymen,or patriots etc. No..They specifically use the word "race." Would you want your child to sing about his or her race?
"Fear not! For the red flag that proudly ripples in this glorious twilight, shall never fade, Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my nation is extinguished. For That is the star of my nation, and it will forever shine; It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation. Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent, But smile upon my heroic race! Why the anger, why the rage? ¹ Our blood which we shed for you will not be blessed otherwise; For freedom is the absolute right of my God-worshiping nation. " |
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![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBn9ZdivzNs
"The current leadership of Turkey is exercising a role that is helpful."-Representative Jane Harman(trying to explain away her hypocracy.)It's one thing for a Republican from the South to give in to blackmail.It's a totally different thing for a democrat from the L.A. Southbay to do it.I couldn't believe it when I heard it,but doing the right thing is often less attractive than doing the wrong thing.Fascists have a way of getting what they need(and more often than not it's blackmail -like this.)Most of these people have some pretty good age on them,but still they can't detect that TURKEY is a country of unreliable bullshit artists.You're gunna rely on that garbage for something? Look,the vote got delayed,and right away they switched to bitching about the U.S. NOT handing the Kurds over on a platter.You're not gunna make them happy, or satisfied. |
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![]() See,Kurds make up 70% of the population of Southeastern Turkey.There are probably 100k Turkish soldiers down close to that border.I really don't know why they want this area to begin with.Do they really expect that area(that's 70% Kurd) to ever be calm? Kurds use the mountains in Northern Iraq to hide in,and then make assaults into Southeastern Turkey(against Turks that they see as occupying enemies.)Seems to me,if the Turks really wanted peace there,they could have it by getting the hell out of there.Even if they get what they want(and kill all the Kurd terrorists in those mountains,) I don't see how they expect there won't be more to take their place.A 30% minority in charge is just probably gunna be a big problem that isn't going away.If Kurds are the major populations in Southeastern Turkey,and Northern Iraq,then it's a little difficult for me to see these people as "terrorists." The majority of the 20 million Kurds are in Southeastern Turkey.They are the 70% majority there.So,are the Turks saying to stop fighting and we'll see about giving you independence? No.So,I'm not sure what the alternative is for the Kurds to gain independence in Southeastern Turkey.If the land is occupied 70% by your own people,then I don't consider it terrorism to try to fight whoever is occupying you.Why should we be helping Turkey(like we are) to kill people who are trying to get control of land that their own people occupy.We are helping a 30% minority in their fight against a 70% majority.Why? Turks can get the hell out of southeastern Turkey whenever they want the killing to end.Why would it stop before that?
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![]() "im sorry man.wut i did was stupid.sorry"- JUSTIN BLACK
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![]() All I did is tell him I was giving this beat to somebody else(if he didn't want it.) He had liked this beat last summer,but it had technical (sound quality) issues that kept us from being able to use it.Who knows...All I know is he finally apologized.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqdIqxi_yo |