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11-03-2007, 09:32 AM
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I just listened to the show, and have the same question that bigsmc raised, why now? isn't the Dr a regular guest on the show? shouldn't he have brought this up before? It also makes me a little suspect when someone keeps using the phrase "I'm not going to lie for the guy". something seems fishy to me why it was so suddenly and bluntly brought to light.
I don't doubt any of the claims about Dutrow though. The situation with Wild Desert should have been investigated and if true to me would warrant a lifetime ban. 
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11-03-2007, 09:41 AM
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I agree regarding Dutrow. What we're dealing with here is a complete lack of respect for the law. We can't continue to have people in this sport thumbing their nose at even the most basic rules of the game or horse racing will quickly head down the same road as the most corrupt sport out there, boxing.
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11-03-2007, 09:55 AM
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a lifetime ban....
that would drop a bomb on the industry for sure. certainly serve as a wake up call to some other trainers out there, who need to be rudely awakened!!
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11-03-2007, 10:45 AM
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11-03-2007, 10:58 AM
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Look I am not a journalist but sure seemed like there was a chance there to get even more information, when Allday calms down his lips will clam up. I was hoping to here things like, and I am paraphrasing from memory
Allday "I have see lots of things in that barn" follow should have been "can you go into some of the things you have seen?" you dont get many chances to find someone in a emotional state ready to say just about anything, once the press gets to him(if they do, not exactly woodward and bernstein here) he is going to downplay it and wont answer questions at that point.
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11-03-2007, 11:41 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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11-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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That was quite an exchange.
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11-03-2007, 12:18 PM
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Well if that is the standard on your show, that if an industry expert calls in on his own personal experience in an interview and says something negative you probably should have cut him off right away.
Does Sirus have the same standards for Sean Hannity and Howard Stern, though I understand your show is neither?
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11-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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I wonder if Biancone and Dutrow exchange cheating secrets in French. They are both a disgrace to this great game and need banned for life.
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11-03-2007, 12:36 PM
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I don't know Sirius' standards for their other programming. I know that we have been threatened with action twice in 2+ years, (Gertmanian was one and the other a guy that 'sells' racing memorabilia curiously acquired), and Sirius specifically has warned us to avoid enntanglements of that ilk...
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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11-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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Mr.Byk,
In my opinion you let a good opportunity go. You had Dr.Allday coming clean about what he "claims" to have seen at the barn of Rick Dutrow. Why not follow up with some detailed information. He didn't clarify anything that the public didn't know already. Dutrow has a record of violations. That was the chance to find out exactly what went on. Apparently he didn't have much good to say about Frankel as well. Didn't he work for Frankel as well? Doesn't he currently or at one time work for Pletcher? I hope for his sake he wasn't dropping bombs without proof of his own involvement. Because his work with those three characters doesn't bring out confidence in him with the bettting public. Hopefully he'll be back on the show and elaborate on "what he saw".
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11-03-2007, 05:10 PM
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It's so obvious what your intentions are. One of the worst trolls ever.
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11-03-2007, 05:48 PM
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11-04-2007, 04:38 AM
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You might want to note that comments like he made Friday would not come on that forum if he didn't have a certain comfort level with the show as a setting for his call. He will say exactly what he wants to say, and if I had to guess what his objective was Friday, I'd say it was to fuel further investigation into the Wild Desert affair specifically. Anything he said or alleged, he will back up with proof. He did offer his records to any authority that wants to see them... There are few major barns that Dr. Allday has not worked with at one time or another. He works on all of the Pletcher horses.. As well as Dale Romans'. He has done work for Frankel. His comments regarding Frankel were related to him taking on the saddling responsibilities for Wild Desert in the Queen's Plate without knowing much about what was going on and that being slightly irresponsible on Bobby's part. Appreciate you listening to the show and sharing your thoughts.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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11-04-2007, 02:26 PM
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11-04-2007, 02:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure Sirius doesn't give a damn what Steve talks about as long as it doesn't cost them money defending themselves in court.
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11-04-2007, 02:38 PM
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I'm not interested in the allegations. Just the positives.
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11-05-2007, 09:07 AM
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The show was great but Allday was spilling the beans all you needed to do was help him lift the can higher and pour more out. Whatever it's easy to be a monday morning quarterback and my comments are only meant as such. When live it's tough to get everything done.
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11-03-2007, 10:41 PM
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When Dr. Richardson at New Bolton was so forthcoming about Barbaro, it was because the owners generously gave permission to discuss Barbaro's case.
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