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10-30-2007, 03:12 PM
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George Washington? Ouija Board? Deep Impact? Sorry to say, but i'd put all of those in front of Discreet Cat on their form of 2006.
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10-30-2007, 04:14 PM
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10-30-2007, 04:19 PM
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That said, I hate to compare them..... Discreet Cat was brilliant (too). Hope he has a happy retirement.
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10-30-2007, 04:24 PM
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Of the four listed, and the one you added -- he undoubtedly ends up in a tight race with GW for 4th place on the list of five. The horse ran a couple of huge races, everyone went ape$hit, and then he got his ass handed to him all year. Pretty simple stuff.
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10-30-2007, 04:29 PM
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His UAE Derby win wasn't exactly brilliant. Okay, he beat Invasor, who was unfit and half the horse he turned out to be, hence why he was allowed to go off at 16/1. What else did he beat? He only managed to win two graded races after then (only one at Grade one level) when he was 1-20 and 1-4 favourite. I will admit, he looked very good when winning the Cigar Mile. But does his form give him the right to be called "brilliant"? Not in my opinion.
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10-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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No Chance, Ill agree with you that the guys you mentioned had better seasons than DCat last year, but on ratings, DCat is well up there with the class of 2006. His Cigar Mile win when as a 3yo he gave Silver Wagon 4pounds and Badge of Silver 7pounds and a beating in a super quick time was one of the performances of the year. That alone puts him right up with Invasor and Deep Impact when considering who the best horse of 2006 was..
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10-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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Without doubt, it was a super quick time and he impressed me. But was that a fluke? On all of his form, you'd probably have to come down on saying "yes". He won one Grade 1 race, and in my mind that doesn't make him a brilliant or a great horse. A good one? Yes, but that is as far as it goes for me. I think he is a horse you either really like or really don't rate. I'm very much in the second group. I'm sorry, but i never really saw the brilliance that other people did.
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10-30-2007, 04:57 PM
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he was 1-4 because he had never even looked like being out of 2nd gear in any race before.and despite the useful competition, many thought of him as the best horse owned by Sheikh Mo. that race certainly wasnt a fluke IMO, it was a culmination of a cautious season with him that allowed him to show how good he was instead of rushing him into a derby trail preperation. if you look at his RPRs, he had steady improvement every race up until the Cigar Mile... something went wrong this winter and he never recovered..
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10-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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When you book a mare to a stallion do you really give a dam how many horses were better then the stallion you want.
Forestry's have been commercially successful and fast. Not my favorite but DC will certainly be an interesting prospect. How sucessful he will or won't be is anyone's guess. I suggest the Godolphin folks will give him plenty of quality mares in his first few seasons. As for how good DC really was? I think he was pretty special but who knows how much better or worse his career could have been if handled by a more stable training environment?
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