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Old 10-28-2007, 05:04 AM
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5) Race 5: What was Trevor Denman watching? He made it sound like Pyro had a chance to catch War Pass!
Good call, I thought the same thing. Laughed out loud when he said "this is a race in two!". Thought his calls were ok for most of the day though.

Curlin was so brilliant today, amazing performance.

My other 2 favourite runs of the day were Midnight Lute with his brilliant run from way back in the Sprint and Octave, who I thought had no chance of hitting the board from where she was.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:45 PM
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My thoughts on the Breeders Cup:

The extreme weather and track conditions made this normally challenging day EXTREMELY DIFFICULT from a handicapping perspective. For all who managed to make money yesterday, I tip my hat to you. While I was close on a few races (a neck here, nose there), the track condition was very difficult to read. I do believe there was a speed bias early in the day. I think Monmouth tried to even the track out, but due to the weather had no choice but to compact it so it played similarly to the way it had throughout their original meet. Just because one horse was able to close in a few of the races, doesn't mean there was no bias. With the fractions being set in some of the races, on a "normal" track, there would have been many closers running at the wire. The 2 juvenile races, which were won by speedy favorites, had very fast fractions, and instead of slowing down mid stretch, they were both still many lengths clear. Now, both of these horses (Indian Blessing and War Pass) may turn out to be superior horses, but they were both tiring in their previous races at a slightly shorter distance. After the rain stopped, and the track dried out a bit, it played more evenly.
Just one man's opinion.
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:09 PM
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That's only if u believe that both horses were tiring in their last races. I didn't think they were. There is a difference between slowing down because u are tiring and slowing down because u are eight in front and the rider is not riding them out to the line while the ones from behind are driving down the lane. Didn't Pyro close in the Juvenile to be second to War Pass again? Suggesting that War Pass should have slowed down enough for Pyro to beat him isn't real. This was the third time War Pass has beaten Pyro. It wasn't a fluke. Pyro was the second best horse in the race. And the horse that beat him is a horse that had beaten him twice before. That's legitimate to me. Backseat Rhythm came on to be third in the Juvenile Fillies. The winner was the same horse that had beaten her handily in the Frizette. How is that not legit?
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