Question For Saratoga Folks - Page 6

kgar311 · #**101** 10-25-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

I do not agree with this at all, I think you are flat out wrong. Look where it is being held this year.

By the way, your first sentance is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

Whats a sentance?????????? Anyways it is the reason, its fact, not my guess that its the reason. Saratogas turf course will only accomodate 10 horses not 14 dummy. The turns are way too tight. Once again this is not a guess.

kgar311 · #**102** 10-25-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

By the way, your first sentance is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

And I believe this is what english teachers would call a run on "sentence."

Let me help you: Your first "sentence" is not coherent or proper.

Please Please correct your grammar and spelling before you even open up that can of worms.

ARyan · #**103** 10-25-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

And I believe this is what english teachers would call a run on "sentence."

Let me help you: Your first "sentence" is not coherent or proper.

Please Please correct your grammar and spelling before you even open up that can of worms.

Sorry, I did not have time to proofread my post. However, your sentence did not make any sense. That is on top of the fact that your whole post was wrong.

kgar311 · #**104** 10-25-2007, 01:13 PM

Prove me wrong please, im begging you. It is a known fact.

Danzig · #**105** 10-25-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

Whats a sentance?????????? Anyways it is the reason, its fact, not my guess that its the reason. Saratogas turf course will only accomodate 10 horses not 14 dummy. The turns are way too tight. Once again this is not a guess.

you can fit ten horses, but not 14 dummies? hmm, didn't know that. but maybe it depends on the size of the dummy.

kgar311 · #**106** 10-25-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Width of Belmont stretch: 100'
Width of Saratoga stretch: 100'

Q.E.D

Phil Phil, im disappointed in you. Number one there aren't 14 horses sprinting into a clubhouse turn at Belmont and 2 they couldn't fit a 14 horse gate in the stretch at Saratoga.

kgar311 · #**107** 10-25-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

you can fit ten horses, but not 14 dummies? hmm, didn't know that. but maybe it depends on the size of the dummy.

Im sure you can fit 14 ARyan's on the turf course.

ARyan · #**108** 10-25-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

Im sure you can fit 14 ARyan's on the turf course.

You truly are a comedian. With that much wit, I am suprised you are not on the road...

philcski · #**109** 10-25-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

Phil Phil, im disappointed in you. Number one there aren't 14 horses sprinting into a clubhouse turn at Belmont and 2 they couldn't fit a 14 horse gate in the stretch at Saratoga.

(1) the gate at Saratoga is 14 horses.

(2) the same problem arises at any 1 1/8 circumference course that has hosted any event; Arlington, Hollywood, Aqueduct, etc. The run to the first turn is short in the Distaff. From a course perspective, there's two problems at Saratoga: 1, no way to run a dirt mile, and 2, juveniles would have to go a 1 1/8- which I don't think is a good thing- and the only time this was done in the BC was at Arlington and it didn't work out so well for the Juvy colts&geldings.

There's a problem with every course, Belmont has the quirky start for the 1 1/4 Classic; Churchill can't run a 1 1/4 turf race, Santa Anita will have problems with the Dirt Mile, etc.

kgar311 · #**110** 10-25-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

(1) the gate at Saratoga is 14 horses.

(2) the same problem arises at any 1 1/8 circumference course that has hosted any event; Arlington, Hollywood, Aqueduct, etc. The run to the first turn is short in the Distaff. From a course perspective, there's two problems at Saratoga: 1, no way to run a dirt mile, and 2, juveniles would have to go a 1 1/8- which I don't think is a good thing- and the only time this was done in the BC was at Arlington and it didn't work out so well for the Juvy colts&geldings.

There's a problem with every course, Belmont has the quirky start for the 1 1/4 Classic; Churchill can't run a 1 1/4 turf race, Santa Anita will have problems with the Dirt Mile, etc.

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track? But I do remember them runnig miles on the dirt a Saratoga a few years back.. The same way they run the 1 1/4 at Belmont. That quirkey mid turn start.

ARyan · #**111** 10-25-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track?

Wow, let us watch as he tries to backdoor his way to prove he is right...

Turf to Dirt now Kgar311?

kgar311 · #**112** 10-25-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

Wow, let us watch as he tries to backdoor his way to prove he is right...

Kgar311
Turf to Dirt (1 .00 $0.00)

I am right. For the safety and concern of horses and Jockeys alike, there is no way in hell anyone would allow 14 horses to run on the turf course at Saratoga. But I did forget about the 1 1/16 for the juvies though. That is another reason.

philcski · #**113** 10-25-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track? But I do remember them runnig miles on the dirt a Saratoga a few years back.. The same way they run the 1 1/4 at Belmont. That quirkey mid turn start.

No... the width of the track is not an issue as you were suggesting. However, the lack of a mile (or mile and a sixteenth) capability would be now that there's a requirement of a dirt mile.

They ran crappy claimers at a mile when i was a kid at Sar, but that was 20 years ago and I don't even think that "chute" is still there, it looked like Ellis' mile chute.

kgar311 · #**114** 10-25-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

When is the last time they ran a mile on the dirt at Saratoga?

I think it was late 90s early 2000s

philcski · #**115** 10-25-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

When is the last time they ran a mile on the dirt at Saratoga?

I think I was about 15, honestly. That's the last time I can remember.

kgar311 · #**116** 10-25-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wrong again. How much more misinformation are you going to spew here today?

Your right. I cant believe that it was the early 90s though. It just seemed like yesterday.

kgar311 · #**117** 10-25-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wrong again. How much more misinformation are you going to spew here today?

Yea and by the way, Saratoga will never hold a breeders cup beacause of the size of the track. Im still waiting for someone to prove me wrong!!! Go ahead hoss. Thats not misinformation.

kgar311 · #**118** 10-25-2007, 01:55 PM

A former distinctive feature of Saratoga's dirt track was the Wilson Mile chute, which branched off from the clubhouse (first) turn at a 90 degree angle. After the 1971 meeting, its use was suspended; following a brief resumption during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

From Wikipedia.

kgar311 · #**119** 10-25-2007, 02:02 PM

Hoss were you disputing that there ever were mile races at Saratoga????

kgar311 · #**120** 10-25-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Right so you were wrong. Just like with the size. You want examples of why, yet offer no evidence to support your claim. Are we to take your word, because surely after today's misinformation it's hard to accept. Prove your side with actual facts or quotes. I'd love to see you try.

Im trying to find the proof here on the comp. Im just not making this crap up. Ive read numerous times that the track is too small. Its common knowledge. Obviously you have none of that or sense.