Funny cide in washington park ??

slotdirt · #1 07-21-2006, 08:44 AM

Can we safely say that Funny Cide is at least slightly back to respectable form now after his last two races in Baltimore and at Woodbine? Good to see him back in the winner's circle.

miraja2 · #2 07-21-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Can we safely say that Funny Cide is at least slightly back to respectable form now after his last two races in Baltimore and at Woodbine? Good to see him back in the winner's circle.

I think we can DEFINITELY say that. Along with the 2 races you mentioned, he won the Kings Point and ran second in the G3 Excelsior this year. Two stakes wins and two more in the money finishes in graded stakes races is definitely respectable.
I don't think he is in Perfect Drift's league because PD is still a very solid G1 horse, and I would not think that Tagg would want to run him in the midwestern heat/humidity. But if the race ends up being Perfect Drift and a bunch of mules......maybe they take a shot. Funny Cide's recent form looks good, we all know that as good as PD is, he is not exactly a winner, and hell it is hot EVERYWHERE this summer. Unless they want to keep him on the shelf until October, they are probably going to have to run him somewhere hot.

slotdirt · #3 07-21-2006, 09:02 AM

You don't think Funny Cide can beat Perfect Drift? That would be the ultimate battle of hangers.

#4 07-21-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

You don't think Funny Cide can beat Perfect Drift? That would be the ultimate battle of hangers.

Funny Cide is no hanger Slot. He sometimes fails to fire but he still has that tenacity when hes in front turning for home. His two wins this year have both been gutwrenchers down the lane where he had to fight off another horse.
Hes been a fighter his whole life. He really gets a bum rap because hes been managed so poorly since right after the triple crown and of course at his age(and Perfect Drifts age) you develop little nagging conditions and arent pristine anymore. Just imgaine where their contemporaries would be had they not been retired so long ago, I doubt that many would be at the level these two are at. Its hard ever to root against these two old horses.

slotdirt · #5 07-21-2006, 09:17 AM

I'm not rooting against either, but Funny Cide had really failed to menace on any occasion until the last couple of starts. That Sir Greeley/Sun King race from January wasn't terrible either.

Gander · #6 07-21-2006, 09:36 AM

I think they have found a comfortable level for Funny Cide. Its not rocket science guys. He was in over his head for a year or two, and some of the best handicap horses made him look like a chump. Now they have come to their senses and placed him in winning spots. That has boosted his confidence. He actually believes he can win again. Its not rocket science.

#7 07-21-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I think they have found a comfortable level for Funny Cide. Its not rocket science guys. He was in over his head for a year or two, and some of the best handicap horses made him look like a chump. Now they have come to their senses and placed him in winning spots. That has boosted his confidence. He actually believes he can win again. Its not rocket science.

i always liked funny cide, i think it is his name that is kinda catchy. he is the alltime leading new york breed when measured by on track earnings.

is he going to chicago ???

pdrift1 · #8 07-24-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Funny Cide is no hanger Slot. He sometimes fails to fire but he still has that tenacity when hes in front turning for home. His two wins this year have both been gutwrenchers down the lane where he had to fight off another horse.
Hes been a fighter his whole life. He really gets a bum rap because hes been managed so poorly since right after the triple crown and of course at his age(and Perfect Drifts age) you develop little nagging conditions and arent pristine anymore. Just imgaine where their contemporaries would be had they not been retired so long ago, I doubt that many would be at the level these two are at. Its hard ever to root against these two old horses.

yuppers oracle, they did xrays of drifts bones and joints, wear and tear etc. . the vets were simply amazed at 7 his joints were like a 3 year old

miraja2 · #9 07-21-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

You don't think Funny Cide can beat Perfect Drift? That would be the ultimate battle of hangers.

Well of course he COULD beat Perfect Drift. Perfect Drift is always beatable because he tends to run 2nd or 3rd a lot....regardless of the competition. But overall I would say that Perfect Drift is still a very competitive G1 horse, while Funny Cide is more of a G3 type horse. As Gander correctly points out, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a 6 year old like FC still being a good G3/lesser stakes horse. It is very impressive.
I would certainly favor PD in this spot because in addition to being a better (I think) overall racehorse, he looked VERY impressive over this track in this race last year.
I just hope this bit of info about Funny Cide turns out to be correct because I will be there at Arlington that day and I would love to see these two old boys run.

Gander · #10 07-21-2006, 10:14 AM

He hasnt gotten back to me on whether or not Chicago is going to happen. I strongly doubt it but you never know. I'd like to see him run at Saratoga in one of those state bred turf races.

Pedigree Ann · #11 07-21-2006, 10:23 AM

You can see a bunch of horses who won stakes races, even graded ones, at 2 or 3 running for claiming tags as 5 and 6yos every week. Even former members of my Road to the Roses stable (ouch!). So maintaining some semblence of his form into 'middle age' as a racehorse is an accomplishment.

Gander · #12 07-21-2006, 10:27 AM

It is very rare to see any accomplished horse at ages 2 or 3 even be in training at ages 5 and 6. Horse racing is just not what it use to be back when the sport was centered around racing and not breeding. Its very unfortunate. You can pretty much count on any horse that does well at 3 to be off the track 1 year later or sooner. Makes having a favorite horse tough anymore.

Arromanches!

miraja2 · #13 07-21-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

He hasnt gotten back to me on whether or not Chicago is going to happen. I strongly doubt it but you never know. I'd like to see him run at Saratoga in one of those state bred turf races.

I could be wrong about this, but I believe they thought about trying him on the turf a couple of years ago. I don't think he ever actually raced on the weeds, but I think they trained him over it a few times and he didn't seem to like it very much, and posted some rather slow workouts over it.
Who knows, they might give the grass a try, but since he seems to be returning to form somewhat on the dirt, I imagine that they will keep him there.

pdrift1 · #14 07-24-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

You don't think Funny Cide can beat Perfect Drift? That would be the ultimate battle of hangers.

NO a chance yes this is horse racing but otherwise no

#15 07-24-2006, 04:07 PM

it doesn
t look like FC will be in the race. gander says he talked to the big yellow bus bunch and theyare clueless,
but,

i think FC has gotten past what bothered him the last 18 months,
i would NOT be surprised at all to see him win a bunch more this year. if they race him right he could have enough points to enter the BCC 11-4.

pdrift1 · #16 07-24-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat

it doesn
t look like FC will be in the race. gander says he talked to the big yellow bus bunch and theyare clueless,
but,

i think FC has gotten past what bothered him the last 18 months,
i would NOT be surprised at all to see him win a bunch more this year. if they race him right he could have enough points to enter the BCC 11-4.

i think he can still win also , i always root for him unless hes in a race with drift then my loyalty goes back to the drift camp

pdrift1 · #17 07-24-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I think we can DEFINITELY say that. Along with the 2 races you mentioned, he won the Kings Point and ran second in the G3 Excelsior this year. Two stakes wins and two more in the money finishes in graded stakes races is definitely respectable.
I don't think he is in Perfect Drift's league because PD is still a very solid G1 horse, and I would not think that Tagg would want to run him in the midwestern heat/humidity. But if the race ends up being Perfect Drift and a bunch of mules......maybe they take a shot. Funny Cide's recent form looks good, we all know that as good as PD is, he is not exactly a winner, and hell it is hot EVERYWHERE this summer. Unless they want to keep him on the shelf until October, they are probably going to have to run him somewhere hot.

exactly even tho i luv funny cide alot drift is a grade 1 caliber the fc is grade3 bordering grade 2 maybe, and thats a big maybe. fc has a ways to go to be back in the grade1s hope he does tho. but i say let him try his only other comp will be perfect drift and suave