BC: Turf; FMT; Mile (PP's/Odds)

[gallant bloom]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

What's wrong with Dettori?! That he'll hurt the odds?

stupid ppl will
think he has
a better shot
now.

he'll be
off the board.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by gallant bloom

stupid ppl will
think he has
a better shot
now.

he'll be
off the board.

I'm not saying he will be off the board, but having Dettori on his back has certainly dented his chances.

If Frankie comes into the stretch with no chance of winning but a chance of being second or third, he will just give up. Like he did on Blue Ksar the other day.

[gallant bloom]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

I'm not saying he will be off the board, but having Dettori on his back has certainly dented his chances.

If Frankie comes into the stretch with no chance of winning but a chance of being second or third, he will just give up. Like he did on Blue Ksar the other day.

did u see
the replay
from milan?

echo of light
could have
won but
he was 3rd.

thanx frankie.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by gallant bloom

did u see
the replay
from milan?

echo of light
could have
won but
he was 3rd.

thanx frankie.

No, i didn't see it, but it doesn't surprise me.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I see I am unworthy of a response. Thanks.

Me, Gallant, mmsc and many european racing followers will all agree that Dettori is hugely overrated. He isn't the best when it comes to tactics and compared with a lot of jockeys he is very weak in a finish.

He only cares about winning. Second and third are not good enough to him as he has shown many times in the past. If he has no chance of winning, but still has a chance of hitting the board he will more than likely give up.

People think he's a good jockey because of the media. He gets a lot of media attention, but that doesn't mean he is good.

He has the choice of all the Godolphin horses to ride, and if they have two runners in the same race he will usually choose the 'wrong one', even though he should know the Godolphin horses inside out.

He just isn't very good considering he gets to ride some of the best horses in the world and often gets it all wrong.

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Me, Gallant, mmsc and many european racing followers will all agree that Dettori is hugely overrated. He isn't the best when it comes to tactics and compared with a lot of jockeys he is very weak in a finish.

He only cares about winning. Second and third are not good enough to him as he has shown many times in the past. If he has no chance of winning, but still has a chance of hitting the board he will more than likely give up.

People think he's a good jockey because of the media. He gets a lot of media attention, but that doesn't mean he is good.

He has the choice of all the Godolphin horses to ride, and if they have two runners in the same race he will usually choose the 'wrong one', even though he should know the Godolphin horses inside out.

He just isn't very good considering he gets to ride some of the best horses in the world and often gets it all wrong.

NoChance, Enjoy your posts. One queston, if Dettori doesn't like to lose...what is he doing on Kelly's Landing in the Sprint? This horse should be a toss, but I just keep coming back to him..

Ez

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by ezrabrooks

NoChance, Enjoy your posts. One queston, if Dettori doesn't like to lose...what is he doing on Kelly's Landing in the Sprint? This horse should be a toss, but I just keep coming back to him..

Ez

He had a good victory on him in Dubai, and even i have to say he gave KL a good ride that night in March.

I think he has a very good shot. I think the key to him is being fresh, and he will be fresh for this. My worry is the jockey though, he is very frustrating from a punters point of view. You can never be sure what sort of ride you will get for your money.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was kind of hoping the person who called people stupid would reply although I appreciate the response. I don't really know, nor care if he is overrated. I am under the opinion that jocks mean very little and do more harm than good. I don't see Dettori enough to have an opinion on him.

There are certain jocks over here, as i'm sure there are in America, where as a fan/punter, you know that he/she will give it their all and try their hardest on every horse. Frankie isn't one of these jockeys. He cost one of my friends a nice exacta payout the other day when he stopped riding his mount which cost him second place.

He earns so much money outside racing that he doesn't really care. He doesn't care about travelling to the races any great distance, if he doesn't really want to, he won't. People over here who don't follow racing just think Dettori is a good jock because he is probably the only one they have heard of.

People will remember the magnificent seven he did at Ascot, but he was on by far the best horses in most of those races and got very lucky with some of the trips he got through the races.

I've seen him mess up so many times, whethet it's through arrogance or lack of ability i couldn't be sure, but he isn't the sort of jockey you could depend on to get a winner if you really need one.

[brockguy]

I agree that Frankie isnt the best jock riding in Europe, but at a massive international event like the Breeders Cup, he will be fine. I would personally have preferred Kinane but if Frankie can ride him like he did Red Rocks last year, Ill take that..