BC: Turf; FMT; Mile (PP's/Odds)

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Jeremy has been sitting on a big win all year...

(Nice avatar, Hockey).

If the turf is firm he won't be winning. Or at least, i don't see him winning if it's firm.

Really fancy Excellent Art in the mile, just as long as Spencer doesn't ride him. He has been beaten by the beat miler in europe (maybe the world) at the moment this year, a really class horse with so much natural speed and a turn of foot, which is lethal. He acts on firm/heavy, everything seems to come alike to him. If i'm honest i will be shocked if he is beaten in the mile.

Can't see past Dylan Thomas in the turf. He should win, unless the turf gets soft.

I don't actually think the Euros will be winning the filly and mare this year. All My Loving has no chance, can't believe she has been pre entered. Passage Of Time is a nice horse, but it is a tough ask for her i think.

Simply Perfect won't stay the trip, and Timarwa will probably be a bit outclassed. John Oxx is a legend though and wouldn't be sending her without a very good reason.

[brockguy]

Jermey's best race came when the ground was a road at Ascot... I think he'll do well if it is quick

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Jermey's best race came when the ground was a road at Ascot... I think he'll do well if it is quick

Michael Stoute has always said he is best on a good surface, wasn't there some talk of taking him out at Royal Ascot because of the ground?

[brockguy]

still though, trainers dont always know best..

EDIT- any idea of jock.. Kinane please..

[brockguy]

Champs Elysees is keeping up the family tradition of competing in the BC.. He is interesting..

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

still though, trainers dont always know best..

EDIT- any idea of jock.. Kinane please..

Even though he's never won on him (... but been 2nd a few times)... RYAN (please)!

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

still though, trainers dont always know best..

EDIT- any idea of jock.. Kinane please..

Trainers aren't usually too far wrong when it comes down to ground preferences. I'm not convinced the ground was that quick at Ascot. Our ground when described as good to firm would probably be called good in America. Their firm would be our "hard", which we now cannot race on.

I'm hoping Kinane rides Excellent Art. Kinane is due to be Ballydoyle's "main" jockey over there.

MMSC, i'm not sure if Ryan Moore will be making the trip over there. If he does, then he probably will ride him.

[HaloWishingwell]

Anyone know how long SILENT NAME has been in Frankel's barn? He had the lead to midstretch with last year's group.

[Bobby Fischer]

Looking Jeremy over as a longshot for the Mile exotics...

When foreign horses run in America, I like to generalize that they want a furlong or so more in The States.

This guy Jeremy ran in the 8furlong Queen Anne G1 stakes back in June, and he made the lead in the stretch, and was just beaten by a very good horse in Ramonti.
Kind of interesting the racing post mentions in the Queen Anne comments that he is a 7 furlong horse and that he much prefers a firm going.
Follows the Queen Anne with a solid 3rd in the Grade1 Sussex(Ramonti,Excellent Art) , and then a real clunker going 7furlongs in a Grade1 on Soft going in his last.

a 7 furlong horse maybe I move him up a little here, with a fair amount of class internationally, and maybe if we get a firm Monmouth Turf - maybe he gets another slight upgrade over any Europeans with a soft preference... PLUS a real clunker in the last to throw the hounds off the trail.

Probably a waste, but I may include him on some vertical exotics

In case you haven't found out yet, Frankel took over Silent Name after his last race in July.

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Anyone know how long SILENT NAME has been in Frankel's barn? He had the lead to midstretch with last year's group.

Oops! I think I messed up my first reply. Frankel took over Silent Name after his last race in July.