BC: Classic (PP's/Odds)

[smuthg]

How are there only NINE horses pre-entered for the Classic???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by smuthg

How are there only NINE horses pre-entered for the Classic???

Who is missing?

[NTamm1215]

Only eight will go and no one is missing in my opinion.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As DrugS called weeks ago (pains me to admit it) there really is very little speed in there. If Lawyer Ron and Velazquez let Hard Spun roll up front, he could be long gone. It completely changes my way of thinking for the race. Kind of sad that a $5 million race here can attract only 9 entrants.

Who is missing?

You do understand that it costs a lot of money to run in a race like this and why would you want to pay all that money to get drilled?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Off of the top of my head I don't know who is missing. I guess I just figured if you'd nominate to the Dirt Mile, why not take a crack at the Classic. Wanderin Boy, Gottcha Gold, Corinthian, etc, These are horses we would have seen in the Classic before this year.

I realize it's expensive to run. But thanks.

If it were no entry fee or something small like $10k you may see a few more guys take flyers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Isn't there an entry fee for the Dirt Mile also?

Yeah but much smaller

[Cannon Shell]

The horses you mentioned will have a whole lot better chance at the mile paying 50k to enter to run for 2 mill than they would paying 125k to run for 5 mill with almost no chance to hit the board.

Over/Under # of horses in the gate

6

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Off of the top of my head I don't know who is missing. I guess I just figured if you'd nominate to the Dirt Mile, why not take a crack at the Classic. Wanderin Boy, Gottcha Gold, Corinthian, etc, These are horses we would have seen in the Classic before this year.

I realize it's expensive to run. But thanks.

Wanderin Boy was in the same situation last year and opted to run in a non-BC stakes on the undercard instead. In year's past you probably would have just seen Corinthian and Gotcha Gold rest for the Cigar Mile instead of going in the Classic.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Why would Gotcha Gold have not tried to run in the Classic on a track that he is almost unbeatable? That makes no sense.

You are probably right on that. I had forgotten about the Iselin and was thinking he hadn't won yet at a mile and an eighth. If he is almost unbeatable then why the heck are they running him for $1 million instead of $5 million?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

why the heck are they running him for $1 million instead of $5 million?

Because they'd rather run at a distance they believe there horse is better suited to - while facing lesser opposition.

If there was no Dirt Mile, it's safe to assume they'd have taken a flyer and tried the Classic.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As DrugS called weeks ago (pains me to admit it) there really is very little speed in there. If Lawyer Ron and Velazquez let Hard Spun roll up front, he could be long gone. It completely changes my way of thinking for the race. Kind of sad that a $5 million race here can attract only 9 entrants.

The lack of speed obviously helps Hard Spun, but try to look at the bright side man.
It just means less horses to get in Calvin's way when he brings Street Sense up the rail to win.
Even with the lack of early pace, I am still leaning toward a Curlin/Street Sense exacta box at this point.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As DrugS called weeks ago (pains me to admit it) there really is very little speed in there. If Lawyer Ron and Velazquez let Hard Spun roll up front, he could be long gone. It completely changes my way of thinking for the race. Kind of sad that a $5 million race here can attract only 9 entrants.

AGS also has tatical speed along with LR. between the 2 i think one of them will keep the pressure on hard spun so he dosen't get a uncontested lead and roll away with this race

[The Indomitable DrugS]

AGS has Gomez (who loves to rate and is widely considered a strong finishing jockey) and AGS is a more effective horse when he rates. He's hung bad in a few races he's used his speed.

In the Haskell he wasn't far behind HS early, but that's only because Hard Spun had a VERY costly early stumble when the gates opened from his outside post, and he was taken under a hold to avoid dueling with hopeless one-way speed Cable Boy.

The only horse who can press Hard Spun is LR.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who is missing?

CP West

on another note...

I've like Street Sense since the BC Juvenile. (had a nice win bet and hit the trifecta)

I just don't think there is enough in this race to get him there. The race will be decided on the back stretch and won by the 1/16th pole. [Of course this is before I see the PPs.]

As far as the cost.. there is more to gain than the $5mil purse. There is stud fees. I know they already made their deals ahead of time but you know the other people involved would love to say, "winner of BC Juvenile/Classic"
I would think Darley or whoever would pay the fees if they could set the race up for their future stud.

but I think a lot of things that never happen.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

CP West

on another note...

I've like Street Sense since the BC Juvenile. (had a nice win bet and hit the trifecta)

I just don't think there is enough in this race to get him there. The race will be decided on the back stretch and won by the 1/16th pole. [Of course this is before I see the PPs.]

As far as the cost.. there is more to gain than the $5mil purse. There is stud fees. I know they already made their deals ahead of time but you know the other people involved would love to say, "winner of BC Juvenile/Classic"
I would think Darley or whoever would pay the fees if they could set the race up for their future stud.

but I think a lot of things that never happen.

Oh, my instinct says CP West will still be running on BC Day.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by philcski

Oh, my instinct says CP West will still be running on BC Day.

He still hasn't finished his last race?