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Old 07-20-2006, 12:38 PM
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So right next to the BL for blink on there would be a T(tint)? For the wind they could design flaps on the side of the jocks helmut to be more airodynamic?
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:47 PM
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Headwind down the stretch at the track I play is very important. If the horses are spread out fairly well entering the stretch, they have a tendency to stay put and not make big moves. A general trend, But this is from one track.

The mud, slop, or other addition of large amounts of moisture is what baffles me the most because every race the hoof strike of the horse in a different part of the track changes. A horse might get a good compact hoof strike on one stride, and then hit a spot where they cant push off, and then hit a spot where they dont even seem to enter the surface, just kinda slide. Very difficult that H2O mixed with sand and dirt.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:22 PM
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Headwind down the stretch at the track I play is very important. If the horses are spread out fairly well entering the stretch, they have a tendency to stay put and not make big moves. A general trend, But this is from one track.

The mud, slop, or other addition of large amounts of moisture is what baffles me the most because every race the hoof strike of the horse in a different part of the track changes. A horse might get a good compact hoof strike on one stride, and then hit a spot where they cant push off, and then hit a spot where they dont even seem to enter the surface, just kinda slide. Very difficult that H2O mixed with sand and dirt.
Agree that slop can be very tough. Good riders know exactly where the tractor's tires compacted the surface. Look for the five path.

Wind? Depends on how severe and whether they're going with it or against.
Drafting? Don't think so.

Earlier posts have questions about sun, shadow rolls, and blinks.
To understand, you have to have some knowledge of how a horse "sees".
A shadow roll has nothing to do with the sun. It has to do with keeping the horse from looking down. Blinks are used to focus attention on a limited field of view...forward. Horses see 270 degrees around and a wide range up and down. It has to do with being a prey species. Take a look at a rabbit's occular orbit and you'll get the same idea.
Sun??? LOL! Never saw one wearing sunglasses, and hope I never do...or I'll be running for the exit so I don't pee my pants.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:34 PM
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Agree that slop can be very tough. Good riders know exactly where the tractor's tires compacted the surface. Look for the five path.

Wind? Depends on how severe and whether they're going with it or against.
Drafting? Don't think so.

Earlier posts have questions about sun, shadow rolls, and blinks.
To understand, you have to have some knowledge of how a horse "sees".
A shadow roll has nothing to do with the sun. It has to do with keeping the horse from looking down. Blinks are used to focus attention on a limited field of view...forward. Horses see 270 degrees around and a wide range up and down. It has to do with being a prey species. Take a look at a rabbit's occular orbit and you'll get the same idea.
Sun??? LOL! Never saw one wearing sunglasses, and hope I never do...or I'll be running for the exit so I don't pee my pants.
I like to see a horse running with a shadow roll because it seems to make them hold their head lower when they run. We all know that when a horse starts to raise their head up they are having trouble breathing and they are done.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:40 AM
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I like to see a horse running with a shadow roll because it seems to make them hold their head lower when they run. We all know that when a horse starts to raise their head up they are having trouble breathing and they are done.
As you know ... the original purpose of a shadow roll is to keep a horse from seeing ... guess what? ... shadows!

And what causes shadows to appear? Yes ... you got it ... the sun!

So ... there is a relationship between shadow rolls and the sun ... isn't there?

I know that you know that ... but apparently some people are so dumb that they can't make the simple connection between what shadow rolls are designed to prevent ... and what causes the problem which they're preventing.

Shadow rolls and sun ... yup ... and yet some people don't seem able to make the conection.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:37 PM
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As you know ... the original purpose of a shadow roll is to keep a horse from seeing ... guess what? ... shadows!

And what causes shadows to appear? Yes ... you got it ... the sun!

So ... there is a relationship between shadow rolls and the sun ... isn't there?

I know that you know that ... but apparently some people are so dumb that they can't make the simple connection between what shadow rolls are designed to prevent ... and what causes the problem which they're preventing.

Shadow rolls and sun ... yup ... and yet some people don't seem able to make the conection.
So that's why it's called a shadow roll. Still like the idea of tinted goggles. A matching pair for the horse and rider.
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Old 07-21-2006, 04:22 PM
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So that's why it's called a shadow roll. Still like the idea of tinted goggles. A matching pair for the horse and rider.
Designer sunglasses for horse and jockey ... are standard at Italian racetracks ...

... gotta maintain that "bella figura" at all times.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:44 PM
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My thing is some horses can't seem to win in the hot summer. Some horses just don't care for it at all.
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