Stud fees...

Indian Charlie · #1 10-15-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus

Smarty Jones is still $100K because that is what he can fetch. The market is completely set by what they get book and they can fill his book at $100K. They don't just randomly stick with numbers or drop or raise fees. They send out their feelers and then they set a price. PG has dropped because they just weren't going to get the $30K fee that he had. Smarty Jones is staying at $100K because they can still get it. Simple as that.

i thought they just used a dartboard myself.

i think the intent of the original question about how smarty jones can still be at 100k was more to ponder how people are willing to pay that price, not that the syndicate/farm would charge 100k if people are willing to pay it.

that's probably just another guess on my part though.

Cajungator26 · #2 10-15-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

i thought they just used a dartboard myself.

i think the intent of the original question about how smarty jones can still be at 100k was more to ponder how people are willing to pay that price, not that the syndicate/farm would charge 100k if people are willing to pay it.

that's probably just another guess on my part though.

Correctimundo.

freddymo · #3 10-15-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

i thought they just used a dartboard myself.

i think the intent of the original question about how smarty jones can still be at 100k was more to ponder how people are willing to pay that price, not that the syndicate/farm would charge 100k if people are willing to pay it.

that's probably just another guess on my part though.

Smarty Jones is going to be a big time stallion and from the 5 or 6 that I looked at they looked OK. He wasn't the hottest looking colt ever either.

Cajungator26 · #4 10-15-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Smarty Jones is going to be a big time stallion

With the book of mares he is getting, he has every chance to be.

Why do you think he's going to be a big time stallion? Any particular reason?

Danzig · #5 10-15-2007, 04:01 PM

i'll be surprised if smarty makes it as a big time stallion. they say one in 10 makes it, but i wouldn't be surprised if it got tougher than that. too many top sires, not enough top mares to go around.

slotdirt · #6 10-15-2007, 04:11 PM

Distorted Humor's CI compared with his AEI has consistently been off the chain. Elusive Quality was also in the same boat for awhile, as was Northern Afleet, but I suppose that is what you get when you have two horses the caliber of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex in your first few crops.

Danzig · #7 10-15-2007, 04:14 PM

EQ seems to have tailed off. shame too, as i think he's a nice horse, and started off lights out. so hard to make a stallion, getting harder every year.

parsixfarms · #8 10-15-2007, 04:17 PM

I wouldn't give up on Elusive Quality too soon, the results of those large books of $100K mares should be hitting the track soon.

Indian Charlie · #9 10-15-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Distorted Humor's CI compared with his AEI has consistently been off the chain. Elusive Quality was also in the same boat for awhile, as was Northern Afleet, but I suppose that is what you get when you have two horses the caliber of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex in your first few crops.

yes, those were the indexes i was referring to. DH was so far greater than anyone else it was just ridiculous.

my namesake had one of the better ratios too at least! i think starting in 2010 or 2011, there will be a big upswing in the quality of IC runners.

Bigsmc · #10 10-15-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Why do you think he's going to be a big time stallion? Any particular reason?

He's KRIM's long lost Uncle....

Pedigree Ann · #11 10-15-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

With the book of mares he is getting, he has every chance to be.

Why do you think he's going to be a big time stallion? Any particular reason?

Anne Peters is designing the matings for Smarty. She's got a good track-record in the field.

Cannon Shell · #12 10-15-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Smarty Jones is going to be a big time stallion and from the 5 or 6 that I looked at they looked OK. He wasn't the hottest looking colt ever either.

Maybe you can do a stallion primer with the noted pedigree expert PG1985. You both seem to be on the same page.

AeWingnut · #13 10-15-2007, 09:29 PM

Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL

Cajungator26 · #14 10-15-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL

I loved Eddington... I remember he was quite the head case on the track.

AeWingnut · #15 10-16-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I loved Eddington... I remember he was quite the head case on the track.

he still is

philcski · #16 10-15-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL

Until last week, no. But he now has a G1 winner in Country Star...

Cannon Shell · #17 10-15-2007, 10:45 PM

http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=41359

Indian Charlie · #18 10-15-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=41359

woah.

has a horse ever gone from 20k to 150k in 2 seasons?

AeWingnut · #19 10-16-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=41359

working on the Kingmambo deal?

Linny · #20 10-16-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL

His daughter Country Star won the G1 Alcibiades. He's only had a couple of winners but they have looked good. CS debuted on the grass, running second. They want routes so they should be getting a bit better at this time of year.