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[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

We are being stiffed on rye bread and this is what you people talk about??

K..ENJOY....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6htOTlQIJs

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

K..ENJOY....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6htOTlQIJs

Oh boy.














Whoa.


















Whew.












Thudder Shudder.














Brown sugar is a commodity I find more attractive than rye bread...all of a sudden.










OOOOOOOOOOO

[SentToStud]

The Armenians rarely catch a break.

[Cannon Shell]

Why does the US Senate vote on resolutions on things that happened in a foreign country 80 years ago? What the hell difference does it make to the people killed? We have no dog in the fight and to stir **** and possibly make things worse in a unstable part of the world for no tangible good, seems so typical of modern day politicians.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why does the US Senate vote on resolutions on things that happened in a foreign country 80 years ago? What the hell difference does it make to the people killed? We have no dog in the fight and to stir **** and possibly make things worse in a unstable part of the world for no tangible good, seems so typical of modern day politicians.

Chucksta, here is the problem your boy GEEDUBB has.He is in Iraq "because it's the right thing to do." It's for "freedom." It's been sold as a moral thing(we long ago got rid of the dictator.)We could get out,but it'd be the "wrong thing to do." Genocide has to be pointed out,or I guarantee you these same people(TURKS) will do this again(if they think they can get away with it.) They hate the KURDS,and the Greeks.This only "recognizes" that something happened.We aren't punishing them.They don't want it to be recognized by the rest of the world.They want to get away with it(without the world ever saying this officially did take place.)This guy does a lot of stuff because it's the moral thing to do,and now he wants to ignore a dog pissing on the furniture.You can't do that.You lose all credibility.We would be like the TURKS(LIARS ,DECEIVERS,OPPORTUNISTS,THUGS.) Another thing you are missing is a point I made previously...You can not satisfy these people.So,don't go down this blackmail road,because it won't end here.There is nothing wrong with simply saying this took place,and it shouldn't ever take place again.Just because he thinks they are his friends doesn't mean it's right to give them a pass(yes they have had a pass on this for 90 years,and it's never been a good time to document it.)

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Chucksta, here is the problem your boy GEEDUBB has.He is in Iraq "because it's the right thing to do." It's for "freedom." It's been sold as a moral thing(we long ago got rid of the dictator.)We could get out,but it'd be the "wrong thing to do." Genocide has to be pointed out,or I guarantee you these same people(TURKS) will do this again(if they think they can get away with it.) They hate the KURDS,and the Greeks.This only "recognizes" that something happened.We aren't punishing them.They don't want it to be recognized by the rest of the world.They want to get away with it(without the world ever saying this officially did take place.)This guy does a lot of stuff because it's the moral thing to do,and now he wants to ignore a dog pissing on the furniture.You can't do that.You lose all credibility.We would be like the TURKS(LIARS ,DECEIVERS,OPPORTUNISTS,THUGS.) Another thing you are missing is a point I made previously...You can not satisfy these people.So,don't go down this blackmail road,because it won't end here.There is nothing wrong with simply saying this took place,and it shouldn't ever take place again.Just because he thinks they are his friends doesn't mean it's right to give them a pass(yes they have had a pass on this for 90 years,and it's never been a good time to document it.)

You sound like both of my late grandfathers; both Armenians from Turkey. One from Keyseri (where my father was born) and the other from Izmir. The last of the "survivors" are in their late 90's. That the reason for the push on this.

[Danzig]

altho this may bring discomfort to the descendants of those who perpetrated the genocide, and to those in power now who don't want to recognize that it happened, it did indeed happen--and as sent so stud said, there was a push for this as there are so few armenians left from that period in time.

it may stir up trouble, but we shouldn't hide from the truth, or be fearful of speaking out.

also, since it was 80 years ago, you could also ask why the Turks are so pissed off about a non binding resolution, and why things will 'never be the same' according to one of the top Turkish pols.

we have a history of standing up for the little guy, or taking sides with the underdog. this is another example of that. better to take a stand imo than to kowtow to thugs and their threats. and i would think that 1.5 million lives lost is certainly something to pass a resolution about.