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Old 07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
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There is simply no race that LITF has ran which would qualify under the description of winning from off the pace. Not one.

By blazing fractions I know you are again referring to the three horse race at Bay Meadows, the 43 and change half mile. First of all that race was essentially a walkover, a time trial for LITF. Neither of the other two horses was a factor at any point. It wasn't as if he dueled with a fast horse and drew off. it makes a world of difference to a sprinter if you can't get comfortable up front, have to run a little wide or between horses.
That race showcased his blazing speed but little more. According to the pace figures that I use, and that you don't buy into, LITF actually ran swifter half miles in the RivaRidge, the KingsBishop, and the BC sprint. Imo the KingsBishop was probably his best performance.
And the funny thing is, i was at the track and he was dead as a doornail at the 1/16th pole. Even Baze said after the race that he had "no horse" from the 1/16th pole on. I watched that race and thought "hes lucky that there wasnt anyone that could catch him".
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:28 PM
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And the funny thing is, i was at the track and he was dead as a doornail at the 1/16th pole. Even Baze said after the race that he had "no horse" from the 1/16th pole on. I watched that race and thought "hes lucky that there wasnt anyone that could catch him".
That's when I drew the same conclusion ...

... and it's what led me to publicly predict ... ten days before the BC Sprint ... when Lost In The Fog was the hottest favorite on the card ... and the goo-goos were going ga-ga ... that not only would he lose ... but that he would crack in the last eighth like an egg dropped on concrete.

Glad you spotted it too.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:36 PM
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And the funny thing is, i was at the track and he was dead as a doornail at the 1/16th pole. Even Baze said after the race that he had "no horse" from the 1/16th pole on. I watched that race and thought "hes lucky that there wasnt anyone that could catch him".
I guess I can understand him not having any gas left at that point. That was a blazing seven furlongs. I think he was lucky that there wasn't any real speed merchant type that could have challenged him more early, again the relatively weak competition. But I take nothing against him for races like that one and the Carryback. Like Phalaris said he was clearly the best 3yo sprinter by a mile.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:44 PM
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Is this thing going to 300 posts tomorrow?

I'm startin to feel a little fogged out.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:54 PM
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I guess I can understand him not having any gas left at that point. That was a blazing seven furlongs. I think he was lucky that there wasn't any real speed merchant type that could have challenged him more early, again the relatively weak competition. But I take nothing against him for races like that one and the Carryback. Like Phalaris said he was clearly the best 3yo sprinter by a mile.
I don't know if he was the best 3 year old by a mile. Silver Train was a 3 year old. Silver Train crushed LITF in the BC Sprint. LITF may have had a better year overall, but when Silver Train was on, he and LITF were pretty closely matched.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:57 PM
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I don't know if he was the best 3 year old by a mile. Silver Train was a 3 year old. Silver Train crushed LITF in the BC Sprint. LITF may have had a better year overall, but when Silver Train was on, he and LITF were pretty closely matched.
You're right, it would be closer. If it were my vote I would have given it to LITF despite the one loss to ST due to the overall year.
But it doesn't matter, it's all hypothetical
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
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And the funny thing is, i was at the track and he was dead as a doornail at the 1/16th pole. Even Baze said after the race that he had "no horse" from the 1/16th pole on. I watched that race and thought "hes lucky that there wasnt anyone that could catch him".
Yes, you are correct. I remember that race. LITF did not finish well that day. If my memory is correct, I think there was some debate about that race on the ESPN website. If my memory is correct, I was telling people that LITF did not finish well at all and even Russel admitted it. I told them that it's never a good sign when the jockey says something negative about his horse. The jocks are usually the biggest cheerleaders in the world when it comes to their horses. When they tell you that "my horse got really tired" that is a red flag and a cause for concern. I had thought that LITF got tired that day and Russel confirmed it in the interview. I remember thinking that LITF was starting to look somewhat vulnerable despite the fact that he won that race.
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