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Old 07-19-2006, 04:04 PM
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Perhaps you shouldn't be in such a "big hurry."
Errrrrrnnnnttttt !!! [sound of "wronmg" buzzer]

Sorry ... Big Hurry was by Black Toney.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:05 PM
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Errrrrrnnnnttttt !!! [sound of "wronmg" buzzer]

Sorry ... Big Hurry was by Black Toney.
No **** shirlock... I already posted the link to BUSINESSLIKE's pedigree. Perhaps you should read before you post. I'm no idiot... don't treat me like one.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:15 PM
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No **** shirlock... I already posted the link to BUSINESSLIKE's pedigree. Perhaps you should read before you post. I'm no idiot... don't treat me like one.
I'm sorry ... that's also a wrong answer.

Cursing and personal attacks are always wrong.

Maybe you should have provided this link ... http://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/LaTroienne.html

The correct answer is ... Big Event and Businesslike were the first two foals ... of an eventual six ... produced by Blue Larkspur and La Troienne. Their other foals were Broke Even, Bee Ann Mac, Belle Histoire, and Belle Of Troy.

La Troienne was owned by Col. Bradley ... and he gave all his horses names which began with the letter "B." Many of today's champions and graded stakes winners trace directly back to La Troienne ... eighty years after she herself was born.

Please take the time to read all about her on the provided link.
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:33 PM
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I'm sorry ... that's also a wrong answer.

Cursing and personal attacks are always wrong.

Maybe you should have provided this link ... http://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/LaTroienne.html

The correct answer is ... Big Event and Businesslike were the first two foals ... of an eventual six ... produced by Blue Larkspur and La Troienne. Their other foals were Broke Even, Bee Ann Mac, Belle Histoire, and Belle Of Troy.

La Troienne was owned by Col. Bradley ... and he gave all his horses names which began with the letter "B." Many of today's champions and graded stakes winners trace directly back to La Troienne ... eighty years after she herself was born.

Please take the time to read all about her on the provided link.
You're ridiculous. I know about La Troienne. You like pushing people's buttons... and I refuse to let you do it to me. Businesslike was very important because she had Busanda who was the the mother of Buckpasser. It's obvious that La Troienne was influential. Please tell me something that nobody else would know and information besides info that can be found on pedigreequery.com.
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Old 07-19-2006, 06:06 PM
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Growing up and going to racing in New York in the late 70s and 80s my two favorite barns were Darby Dan and Rokeby.

Thus, i would have to go with Flower Bowl who sired Graustark and His Majesty within the Darby Dan side and,

Glowing Tribute who sired Sea Hero, Hero's Honor, Wild Applause and Eastern Echo for Rokeby...
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:12 PM
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Thus, i would have to go with Flower Bowl who sired Graustark and His Majesty ...
Yipes !!!

Did you forget that Flower Bowl also produced Hall Of Fame filly Bowl Of Flowers ... or was that because she was owned by Brookmeade?
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:20 AM
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Growing up and going to racing in New York in the late 70s and 80s my two favorite barns were Darby Dan and Rokeby.

Thus, i would have to go with Flower Bowl who sired Graustark and His Majesty within the Darby Dan side and,

Glowing Tribute who sired Sea Hero, Hero's Honor, Wild Applause and Eastern Echo for Rokeby...

[screams, gnashing of teeth, hairing being pulled] MaresPRODUCE offspring! stallions SIRE offspring, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED THE SIRE! she yelled. Sorry, pet peeve activated.

Boudoir II, granddam of Flower Bowl was the foundress of this family; her son Your Host sired HotY Kelso among others, daughter Your Hostess produced G1-type winners T.V. Commercial and Corragioso and was granddam of Majestic Prince, et. al. A lot more major winners in this line in later generations and other branches.

Actually, Glowing Tribute is yet another member of the La Troienne tribe.

The great racemare Dahlia turned into a top producer; she had 4 G1 winners, and two G2 winners (one of them G1-placed), plus a G1-placed horse who didn't win a stakes, and a listed-placed filly. Six foals who could compete at the G1 level is pretty good in my book.

Selene's sons Hyperion, Sickle, Pharamond II, and Hunter's Moon (a top sire in Argentina) are all deeply imbedded in huge numbers of pedigrees; it would be hard to find a US pedigree without Selene's name in it somewhere.

Plucky Liege is a mare a lot of you haven't heard of, but she produced 3 classic winners - Sir Gallahad III, Bois Roussel, and Admiral Drake - all of whom became influential sires. So did Sir G's little brother Bull Dog, sire of Bull Lea, et. al.

But my favorite broodmare of all time was Maggie B. B. She foaled the first US-bred winner of the Derby at Epsom, Iroquois (in 1881 - he also won the St. Leger); a Belmont winner, Panique; a Preakness winner, Harold; plus two other SWs, and founded one of the finest and most prolific female families in North American breeding history. Proper Reality, Thirty Slews, Cryptoclearance, Harlan's Holiday, Mystery Giver, French Deputy, Bet on Sunshine, Safely Kept, Film Maker, Life's Magic, Dubai Millennium, Dixie Union, Lemons Forever, Sinister Minister..., these are some of her recent descendents you may be familiar with.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:51 AM
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But my favorite broodmare of all time was Maggie B. B. She foaled the first US-bred winner of the Derby at Epsom, Iroquois (in 1881 - he also won the St. Leger); a Belmont winner, Panique; a Preakness winner, Harold; plus two other SWs, and founded one of the finest and most prolific female families in North American breeding history. Proper Reality, Thirty Slews, Cryptoclearance, Harlan's Holiday, Mystery Giver, French Deputy, Bet on Sunshine, Safely Kept, Film Maker, Life's Magic, Dubai Millennium, Dixie Union, Lemons Forever, Sinister Minister..., these are some of her recent descendents you may be familiar with.
Hey ... when you can pull out a new one on me ... you've really got something!

Two other influential mares were Bourtai ... who founded the line which produced all those Levee, Bayou, Dike, Delta horses ... and ... Hildene ... the blind mare who produced Hill Prince, Prince Hill, Third Brother, and First Landing ... though neither of these two families are as important as they once were.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:54 AM
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Plucky Liege is a mare a lot of you haven't heard of, but she produced 3 classic winners - Sir Gallahad III, Bois Roussel, and Admiral Drake - all of whom became influential sires. So did Sir G's little brother Bull Dog, sire of Bull Lea, et. al.
You mention Bull Dog as almost an afterthought ... but for a while he was by far the most important of Plucky Liege's offspring ...

... though it all went bad when Bull Lea turned out to be the worst sire of sires in world history.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:19 PM
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You're ridiculous. I know about La Troienne. You like pushing people's buttons... and I refuse to let you do it to me. Businesslike was very important because she had Busanda who was the the mother of Buckpasser. It's obvious that La Troienne was influential. Please tell me something that nobody else would know and information besides info that can be found on pedigreequery.com.
Errrrrnnnnnttttttt !!!

That response is also wrong. The link I provided was to "tbheritage" ... not to "pedigreequery."

Sorry ... that was your third incorrect response ... I'm afraid I have to disqualify you.
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