NO Biz....

[Hoist Her Flag]

Tagg is saying Hollywood Derby. The Europeans on TVG were very impressed with nobiz effort. I think he will go back to the dirt after all these 3 year olds retire.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Hoist Her Flag

Tagg is saying Hollywood Derby. The Europeans on TVG were very impressed with nobiz effort. I think he will go back to the dirt after all these 3 year olds retire.

They have Europeans on TVG now? First Schrupp now this???

[Hoist Her Flag]

Does anyone allow a horse to get better? He is a huge horse, think 7 footer, aren't most of those guys better at 28 than 20. I'm not saying I'm just saying whats the glory in being the best turf horse in the America, ask English Channel. Tagg has nothing to lose, all the three year olds are retiring, he will have to beat cp west, grasshopper and Zanjero to be the top dirt horse, not exactly tough.

[Danzig]

i'd keep him on the turf. nothing wrong with being a good turf horse, i really wish people would quit thinking that excelling on that surface somehow makes you a lesser horse than if you could win on dirt. turf still treated like the red headed step child of racing, it's a shame.
he can earn large checks, and turf is kinder to a horse than dirt.

[Hoist Her Flag]

Danzig, I don't disagree with ya, but the fact is Turf horses are treated like the stepchildren, Manilla was my favorite horse, all the turf horses go off to stud, get no mares and are forgotten.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Hoist Her Flag

Danzig, I don't disagree with ya, but the fact is Turf horses are treated like the stepchildren, Manilla was my favorite horse, all the turf horses go off to stud, get no mares and are forgotten.

Like Theatrical and Cozzene?


Manila was a great racehorse but equally ungreat stallion...

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Hoist Her Flag

Does anyone allow a horse to get better? He is a huge horse, think 7 footer, aren't most of those guys better at 28 than 20. I'm not saying I'm just saying whats the glory in being the best turf horse in the America, ask English Channel. Tagg has nothing to lose, all the three year olds are retiring, he will have to beat cp west, grasshopper and Zanjero to be the top dirt horse, not exactly tough.

I think what u say makes perfect sense. Take away Street Sense, Curlin, Hard Spun, Any Given Saturday and Lawyer Ron out of the picture next year or at least three of the five, and u aren't left with a lot to beat in order for Nobiz to reach the upper levels of the handicap division. With so many spots around the country to ship and win big purses and grade ones, I would say that if they run Nobiz on the dirt next year, it's very easy to see him being one of the two or three leading older dirt males next year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I think what u say makes perfect sense. Take away Street Sense, Curlin, Hard Spun, Any Given Saturday and Lawyer Ron out of the picture next year or at least three of the five, and u aren't left with a lot to beat in order for Nobiz to reach the upper levels of the handicap division. With so many spots around the country to ship and win big purses and grade ones, I would say that if they run Nobiz on the dirt next year, it's very easy to see him being one of the two or three leading older dirt males next year.

Hey, Perfect Drift is coming back too!!

[Merlinsky]

They said he was getting run down pretty bad on dirt if I understood the article. I guess he has the ability on dirt but feels better showing in on turf. Would you say that's accurate? I never thought he'd become a dirt bum so I'm glad he's getting a chance somewhere else.

[cmorioles]

Beyers, Nobiz Like Shobiz a 102, Purim a 104. I have a hard time with those.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Beyers, Nobiz Like Shobiz a 102, Purim a 104. I have a hard time with those.

Yeah, I completely agree with that.

NT