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Old 10-06-2007, 09:03 PM
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Covering the final furlong (of a 9f race) in 11.68 seconds is fairly impressive.
These final fractions in turf races, especially in NY, have to be taken with a grain of salt. No knock on NoBiz, he was terrific, perfect trip or not, but the come home times feel suspect.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:04 PM
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These final fractions in turf races, especially in NY, have to be taken with a grain of salt. No knock on NoBiz, he was terrific, perfect trip or not, but the come home times feel suspect.
Andy, are you having people over to watch Zanjero in just under an hour?
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:05 PM
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These final fractions in turf races, especially in NY, have to be taken with a grain of salt. No knock on NoBiz, he was terrific, perfect trip or not, but the come home times feel suspect.
Was it me or did it look like he was going to find trouble the whole race but somehow seemed to avoid it?
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:26 PM
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Was it me or did it look like he was going to find trouble the whole race but somehow seemed to avoid it?
Yeah,I wouldn't trust Castellano to be able to get him some place to run on B.C. day.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:29 PM
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Was it me or did it look like he was going to find trouble the whole race but somehow seemed to avoid it?
I guess, but it always seems like that when you're inside in turf races. Luckily for him the field spread a bit into the stretch. Not that it would have mattered.

All the connections got too concerned with the lack of speed on paper. Except Tagg who never wants the lead.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:57 PM
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Tagg's got himself a horse.

A lot of people were so "dissapointed" with Nobiz in the Dwyer. I don't think the betting public understood that he ran with a better running style in the Dwyer. Nobiz ran his best dirt race as a 3yo in the Dwyer, his best style since the 2yo Remsen Stakes, but was beat by another horse who happened to run a brilliant race. (similar to those who bashed Curlin's Haskell)

Enough about AGS who is one of my first BC tosses.

Nobiz was born to be a classic distance warrior. Right now he is king of the 9furlong 3yo turf horses. He made a huge move and made Red Giant look more like the Hobbit. I would like to see how Nobiz develops, not necessarily urgent to do big things on Breeders Cup day. I hope to see this big guy run at 4 - he looks to take the title of best animal of his crop when Hard Spun retires.

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Old 10-06-2007, 11:05 PM
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This was a very nice win, If all the heavy hitters get put off to stud, it leaves Nobiz likely to go back to the dirt. Some horses get better, he may be one of them, plus he's a big horse, this win today was very impressive.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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Tagg's got himself a horse.

A lot of people were so "dissapointed" with Nobiz in the Dwyer. I don't think the betting public understood that he ran with a better running style in the Dwyer. Nobiz ran his best dirt race as a 3yo in the Dwyer, his best style since the 2yo Remsen Stakes, but was beat by another horse who happened to run a brilliant race. (similar to those who bashed Curlin's Haskell)

Enough about AGS who is one of my first BC tosses.

Nobiz was born to be a classic distance warrior. Right now he is king of the 9furlong 3yo turf horses. He made a huge move and made Red Giant look more like the Hobbit. I would like to see how Nobiz develops, not necessarily urgent to do big things on Breeders Cup day. I hope to see this big guy run at 4 - he looks to take the title of best animal of his crop when Hard Spun retires.
any idea of his next start? will he go to the bc, and if so, the turf?
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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Tagg is saying Hollywood Derby. The Europeans on TVG were very impressed with nobiz effort. I think he will go back to the dirt after all these 3 year olds retire.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:37 AM
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Tagg is saying Hollywood Derby. The Europeans on TVG were very impressed with nobiz effort. I think he will go back to the dirt after all these 3 year olds retire.
They have Europeans on TVG now? First Schrupp now this???
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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Does anyone allow a horse to get better? He is a huge horse, think 7 footer, aren't most of those guys better at 28 than 20. I'm not saying I'm just saying whats the glory in being the best turf horse in the America, ask English Channel. Tagg has nothing to lose, all the three year olds are retiring, he will have to beat cp west, grasshopper and Zanjero to be the top dirt horse, not exactly tough.
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